. >>> "new york times" moving the public editor liz spade. this was her last column today. the public editor job is unique, a person who is there to represent the readers. we're seeing fewer and fewer of those jobs across the media. there are fewer critics who print newspapers the way you are at the baltimore sun. what does it matter that the "new york times" is removing this job? >> two things are going on here. this is, again, a tough call. "the times" gives itself good cover when they're laying off editors and people in their newsroom saying, hey, we can't afford this job. on the other hand, they're hiring all kinds of new people. >> they're moving on directors, bringing in new young people. >> which is the only way the newspaper will survive, i get that. i think symbolically getting rid of their public editor matters, but brian, you know that it's a very hard thing for someone to be paid by the "new york times" and legitimately criticize them is complicated. and liz spade, now, she took on values i believe in, is that in covering trump we should adhere to legacy values