>> liz, liz truss >> yes, because liz, liz truss gosh, liz truss is telling the conservatives how to on your views on this. now a lot of people will say, liz truss, she messed it up a bit, but actually some of her ideas were pretty sound. some of her ideas were pretty sound . what's your view? sound. what's your view? >> yeah, i think some of their ideas were sound, but she didn't have the political nous or ability to translate sound ideas into sound action. and in fact , into sound action. and in fact, it smashed her own government up and smashed up a lot of the tory party and smashed up the ideals of some of the people who agreed with what she was saying , uh, with what she was saying, uh, which i think are irreversible. how could anybody now put any trust in liz truss? i don't think she's got a very good presentation style anyway. >> she always looks stuttering to me. she doesn't speak well . to me. she doesn't speak well. >> she's not a great lecturer and i always feel like i'm talking to somebody who seems to be making it up on the hoof. you know, it's the ideas are coming out o

the thing with judging what liz truss was saying, i judging what liz truss was saying, people shouldecord in office? wanting to bring - said today. not on her record in office? wanting to bring back i said today. not on her record in | office? wanting to bring back the link between accountability. i’m link between accountability. i'm sure she link between accountability. i“n sure she would be the first to admit her term in office did not go the way she intended but that is not to say that the ideas being discussed today, i think trying to start a more serious conversation about the longer term institutional reforms we need and how we start to build a coherent policy platform instead of just short—term fighting. from what i saw it looked like a much more serious effort to start a cohesive piece of work thinking about what a real programme of reforms looks like. and bringing conservative back into the mainstream. i5 like. and bringing conservative back into the mainstream. is it like. and bringing conservative back into the mainstream.— into the mainstream. is it not fair enou:h into t

plus the former pm liz truss.'s upper lip remains as stiff as ever as he meets the duke of sussex and was seen earlier this afternoon leaving duke of sussex and was seen earlpalace afternoon leaving duke of sussex and was seen earlpalace for ernoon leaving duke of sussex and was seen earlpalace for sandringhamg duke of sussex and was seen earlpalace for sandringham . radio. >> welcome back. our man jake rees—mogg. and this is state of the nation. we've been discussing the seemingly unstoppable tide of diversity, eqtu unstoppable tide of diversity, equity and inclusion . and once equity and inclusion. and once again, you've been sending in your mail. mmogs neil says please, please, please tell your ill informed guest that there is equal pay already. ill informed guest that there is equal pay already . and tiana equal pay already. and tiana says on diversity proposals marxism jacob, it's marxism destroying capitalism . that's destroying capitalism. that's it. and steven, i don't think anyone, any company, anywhere h

paul on liz truss. o dislike her realise rishi and comes fix the markets in order to denounce liz ? order to denounce liz? >> take your tin hat off. >> take your tin hat off. >> john has written in every time i hear the name popcorn, i just think of popcorn. i think she should have come up with a better name. well that's one comment. next up though, it's ben leo and as ever, has ben leo and he, as ever, has something to say, right? >> is it just me or are you >> uh, is it just me or are you sick to the stomach of shameless men trying their hardest to ruin women's sport? i've never understood man , understood how a biological man, with inherent power with all their inherent power and speed advantages, they take pride in beating women for anything from, well, swimming, rugby and football to tennis and crucially, this week running . crucially, this week running. for me, it's the equivalent of going down to my local secondary school and beating all the kids in a 100 metre sprint. where is the pride in that?

next up, liz truss is majesty. next up, liz truss is back in the public eye today. >> the former prime minister has criticised rishi sunaks government for failing to take on what she's called left wing extremists. >> is this yet another plot to sink sunak and liz truss? >> the answer for next? there's the latest on the manhunt for abdul ezedi, which is now incredibly in its sixth day. how on earth can britain's most wanted man simply disappear into thin air and liam halligan is a special report on the elderly people facing a crushing 63% increase in their social housing costs . that's all coming up in costs. that's all coming up in your next hour . so welcome to your next hour. so welcome to the show as usual. >> please get in touch all the usual ways. >> gbviews@gbnews.com. do you think that the popular conservatives are the answer? they say left wing extremists have taken control of the country. well, you were in power for 14 years. perhaps you could have stop them then. do we want popular conservatism or do you

and liz truss , our former hero. and liz truss, our former prime minister, nodded along.orse, she said that we should have donald trump back as us president , something that two uk president, something that two uk ambassadors to the us have said would be incredibly dangerous for west , something liz for the west, something liz truss claims to care about . so truss claims to care about. so look, you know, i get that, you know, the only thing you're known for is crashing the economy and being to economy and barely being able to get through a three minute local radio probably get through a three minute local radio to probably get through a three minute local radio to be probably get through a three minute local radio to be knownably get through a three minute local radio to be known for! would want to be known for something that. but something other than that. but i don't being a wacko don't think being a wacko conspiracy it? so conspiracy theorist is it? so here's pitch . if we've got here's my pitch. if we've got a second prime minister watching the tonight rishi sunak, th

liz truss will also liz truss.allying right wing conservatives today , ahead of conservatives today, ahead of this year's general election . this year's general election. the short lived former prime minister is expected to address an event in central london later, and she'll be joined by the ex—cabinet minister, sir jacob rees—mogg, along with lee anderson, who recently quit as deputy chairman over the deputy party chairman over the rwanda bill. the new popular conservatives group , dubbed conservatives group, dubbed popcorn, aims at amplifying calls for tax cuts and bringing in tougher policies on immigration. in other news, a british cargo ship has been targeted by an unmanned drone in the red sea. that's in the latest in a series of attacks on commercial ships by houthi rebels. we understand the vessel did suffer minor damage after it was hit by naval missiles around 60 miles off the coast of yemen . 60 miles off the coast of yemen. the ship made evasive manoeuvres before continuing on its journey safely and we

if you actually listen _ that liz truss day. if you actually listen to — that liz truss day.she actually— right—wing conference, and she actually talked about conspiracy theories — actually talked about conspiracy theories and the fact that if she had a _ theories and the fact that if she had a chance, she would take a bigger— had a chance, she would take a bigger bazooka to her opposition. this includes the office for budget responsibility, the conservatives that disagreed with her, and also the lahour— that disagreed with her, and also the labour party. why that disagreed with her, and also the labour party.— the labour party. why does that matter beyond _ the labour party. why does that matter beyond normal— the labour party. why does that matter beyond normal political. matter beyond normal political discourse?— matter beyond normal political discourse? �* , , discourse? because she is speaking those words — discourse? because she is speaking those words in _ discourse? because she is speaking those words in the _ discourse? because she is speaking those words in the cont

i had not heard that about liz truss, _ tory party? had not heard that about liz truss, but it _ tory party? i had not heard that about liz truss, but it is - tory party? i had not heard that| about liz truss, but it is scarcely covering her with glory. there are a couple of problems with the conservative party, first as well they are in the polls, the prime minister�*s authority is very weak, so lots of people are conducting themselves with a eye to after the election and in the case of liz truss, that means the fight over the leadership and future direction of the party, with lee anderson that means bolstering his career as a television pundit and commentator, so i would distinguish between the two of them in as much as i personally suspect that liz truss�*s results were more social awkwardness or cowardice in not wanting to call out the house. i have not seen any evidence that she personally supports the edl, her politics taken a different direction, she is a libertarian, anderson made and then stood by his unfounded comments about

to the even more unpopular liz truss in the summer of 22.— the even more unpopular liz truss in the summere — the summer of 22. to what extent can we blame the tories _ the summer of 22. to what extent can we blame the tories problems - the summer of 22. to what extent can we blame the tories problems on - we blame the tories problems on rishi sunak and his predecessors? it is fair to say that the legacy of rishi sunak was not great, we had two of the most unpopular prime minister is that we had seen in this country for a long time, boris johnson and liz truss before him, liz truss is seen by the electorate as having crashed the economy and made a difference to people who are now paying higher mortgages as a result. and what we have to remember is of course rishi sunak was the chancellor of the exchequer under borisjohnson so he cannot completely escape responsibility for the situation he faces. the electorate _ the situation he faces. the electorate is _ the situation he faces. the electorate is not _ the situation he faces. the electorate is not prepared to believe the narrative that the

also had some controversial comments from liz truss?— from liz truss?from liz truss? yes, she was speaking at the conservative | speaking at the conservative political action conference, but that has become a political rally for transporters. that has become a political rally fortransporters. she that has become a political rally for transporters. she sought to blame the establishment and british bureaucrats for her downfall as uk prime minister afterjust 45 days. she said she faced the most almighty backlash for those conservatives policies that she tried to put in place, and that right—wingers need a bigger bazooka to combat the left. let's not forget that it was conservative mps and the uk parliament to be removed liz truss from office. 0pposition parties have called once again for the prime minister to kick her out of the parliamentary party for some of these comments, which they described as spreading conspiracy theories, in their words. as spreading conspiracy theories, in their words-— police in spain have recovered nine bodies from two burnt—out

for me, the liz truss comments speak to her moving _ the liz truss comments speak to her moving it _e liz truss comments speak to her moving it to her moving into a slightiv— moving it to her moving into a slightly more extreme fringe than what she — slightly more extreme fringe than what she suggested she was going to when she _ what she suggested she was going to when she was pm for a short period. short— when she was pm for a short period. short shrift — when she was pm for a short period. short shrift for liz truss but so is drupal has mixed feelings about lee anderson and suella braverman. i don't think either of them are making — don't think either of them are making points beyond the pale first up making points beyond the pale first up i making points beyond the pale first up i think— making points beyond the pale first up i think the language they are using _ up i think the language they are using is— up i think the language they are using is stupidly inflammatory and has completely distracted from the real debates about, because we have something _ real debates about, becaus

there was the popcorn conference, liz truss, _ rishi subak?here was the popcorn conference, liz truss, a _ rishi subak? there was the popcorn conference, liz truss, a whole - rishi subak? there was the popcorn | conference, liz truss, a whole group of people. local elections on the horizon which will be a very bruising experience for rishi subak —— rishi sunak. joe is right that the budget is the next big thing but what i think the public have worked out is that some kind of rays on tax cuts which will come at the expense of public services which are already on their needs and public are cognisant of that because they can't get to their doctor and they know this schools are having a hard time so even though the budget could provide an opportunity, people are not going to fall for the sorcery of, "oh, his tax cut." the economy and public services are the things people care about the most and if i was advising the tories i'd concentrate on bread—and—butter issues and away from these culture wars which are a big distraction and they only benefit

, because not�*rable. wrong about liz truss being forgetum, because not onlye. wrong about liz trusseah. um, because not only the mortgage thing, no one will ever say cheese markets without doing it that voice. and and she it in that voice. and and she will be a pub quiz. answer for shortest pm and also pm when the queen died. so she will be written in books somewhere written down in books somewhere amazing. >> made it halfway. >> well, we've made it halfway. stay us out how stay with us to find out how thousands of civil servants can be and why a school made be fired and why a school made false eyelashes part of their uniform. see you in couple welcome back to headliners. we've got the mail now and civil servants will be replaced by ai. seems like overkill . most civil seems like overkill. most civil servants could be replaced with a wooden spoon with a face drawn on it. steve i'm so far you're on it. steve i'm so far you're on the fence. >> let's see what you think is player one. civil servants will be replaced by ai chatbots. this is oliver dowden, who's been saying unveiled a £11

liz truss launched it today. i was there. i'll give you my opinion and a stasi style investigation into a newcastle united football fan . her united football fan. her political views are unacceptable and she's been banned from watching the team she loves. she and toby young from the free speech union join me in the studio and we ask, what on earth are the premier league up to.7 but before all of that, in a very packed show, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the king has arrived at the sandringham estate in norfolk, having left london this afternoon . king london this afternoon. king charles and queen camilla, both on that left on the helicopter that left buckingham palace earlier today after meeting prince harry at clarence house, who had just flown in from la. the duke of sussex, spending around 30 to 45 minutes with his father. and it became apparent today that prince william, he says,

if they can't turn off liz truss, they can turn off suella braverman and they can't turn off lee andersoncharge also applies to the whips. to the backbenches of the conservative party. laura asked 0liver dowden about that appearance by steve bannon when tommy _ appearance by steve bannon when tommy robinson was described as a hero and _ tommy robinson was described as a hero and liz— tommy robinson was described as a hero and liz truss didn't pull out. well, steve bannon is going to say that sort of thing. that is what he is going to say. i thought andy burnham may didn't really interesting point to laura when you mentioned that suella braverman article where they have taken control of this and they have taken control of that. andy burnham says can you imagine if somebody had written that about jewish people? that would likely have been condemned by everybody as anti—semitism and get suella braverman says that about islamists and oliver dowden doesn't call it out. back to my theme about sliding doors, let's listen to both together. 0liver dowden on laura kuenssberg and... dodd and sir rob

liz truss, who of course was the prime minister, was filmed with one of donald trump's old lieutenantseve bannon was talking about tommy robinson, the founder of the english defence league, someone with a string of convictions. he called him a hero and she was standing alongside it. didn't challenge it. let's show it to viewers. i don't understand this. the grooming situation, _ tommy robinson, all these heroes fought at the rape situation. and in that community, - you can have a special election and you may have a radical jihadist partx _ send somebody to comments after all that problem... - that... that is correct. | do you think, as sajid javid said, | former colleague of yours, senior conservative, that liz truss should have known better? do you think, as sajid javid said, former colleague of yours, senior conservative, that liz truss should have known better? she also talked about the deep state undermining which many of our viewers would know is a conspiracy theory. should she have known better? well, we saw one one small clip from this clip from... she should have called it out

. event featuring liz truss.hat's up to, anna, do what's liz truss up to, anna, do you think? >> think she's, um, knowingly >> i think she's, um, knowingly stirring the pot. would be would be the technical tum for it. i think liz truss obviously knows that she has no future in a return leadership bid, but she makes no secret that she would probably like to be in a position of kingmaker in any future. going say future. i was going to say kingmaker rather than comeback queen, probably the queen, i think is probably the best idea. >> an interesting best idea. >> of an interesting best idea. >> of dual an interesting best idea. >> of dual story| interesting best idea. >> of dual story| irtheesting best idea. >> of dual story| irthe sunday sort of dual story in the sunday times talking about how we're in this slightly perverse situation , that starmer is being , in that keir starmer is being sort of more strong on israel than lord cameron, our foreign secretary cameron calling for palestine to be recognised as a state

and as i think you know, when i when i got the call from liz truss, i was so disbelieving that i actuallyd it, refused to take it because i didn't think she could possibly be wanting to call me. so it's quite a big surprise and, of course, a huge privilege to be here. and the loveliest thing about it is that my family are in the flat upstairs and so my kids can walk into my study and we can chat about this and that. and that is... i've got to a stage in life where i like spending time with my kids. in fact, i have a bit of a conscience that i haven't been doing enough of that to date and so that is lovely. it's also fun living next door to the sunaks and the families get on. with one exception, our dogs do not get on. i have a very assertive female labrador and rishi has a rather shy male labrador. rival dogs. so the dogs... sometimes my poppy overwhelms his nova, but apart from that, it is all harmony. so you ought to really rename them after warring chancellors. you could call one dog thatcher and the other dog lawson. brown and blair. yes, exactly. that would be a great idea, maybe for

yes, liz truss launches it today. what does it all mean? of that in just a moment radio. >> well, there's no doubting in my mind the sincerity of liz truss. it may well have been a very, very short premiership. it may have ended very badly. but she is to prepared stand up and fight for the ideas she believes in. here. she was earlier on today launching pop con. yes, popular concert . today launching pop con. yes, popular concert. um, one of the problems we have is though, we've got a conservative government what we're seeing in our schools , in our our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas . wokery of left wing ideas. >> people of britain want us to deal with the real issues immigration is too high. the government's too big. taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcon is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging ing the left wing orthodoxy and making i

that does not excuse liz truss . uh, against it. that does not excuse liz truss.mistakes. but even a she did make a good number of mistakes . but even a faultless mistakes. but even a faultless prime minister trying to bring those things about, i think, would tough and would have a tough going. and you're patrick, is you're right, patrick, why is the bank of the governor of the bank of england place the england still in place when the inflation how long inflation target is 2? how long can you fail to hit that target ? can you fail to hit that target? and just sort of so there is a mistake. >> f— mistake. >> argument there is >> i mean, the argument there is there deep state and it's there is a deep state and it's not not dangerous. there is a deep state and it's not rightot dangerous. there is a deep state and it's not right wingngerous. there is a deep state and it's not right wing conspiracy theory >> right wing conspiracy theory to no. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> but but i think you've got to be credible. and she's >> but but i think you've got to be very credible

yes, former prime minister liz truss will join me live on the program, too.ut before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you. and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the prime minister says he is very concerned about commons concerned about the commons speaker's the gaza speaker's handling of the gaza ceasefire debate yesterday . it ceasefire debate yesterday. it comes after dozens of mps stormed out of parliament last night , with tempers flaring stormed out of parliament last night, with tempers flaring as three of the biggest political parties sought to outmanoeuvre one another over the vote . sir one another over the vote. sir lindsay hoyle has since reiterated his apology for allowing both government and labour amendments to be debated . labour amendments to be debated. rishi sunak says changing the usual parliamentary way of working is a very slippery soap. >> the speaker has apologised as my understanding for what happened last night, because the usual ways in w

the former prime minister, liz truss, has launched a new political group called the popular conservativesof a general election this year. she's joined in the group by ex—cabinet minister sirjacob rees—mogg and lee anderson, who recently quit as deputy tory chairman over the rwanda bill. at a launch event this morning, liz truss suggested that institutions in the uk had moved away from conservative core values. if all of us are being honest in this room, we've been swimming against the tide. when we're talking about conservative values. whether it's what's going on in our schools and the fact that wokeism seems to be on the curriculum. and in our universities and in our corporate sector, there seems to be confusion about basic biological issues, like what is a woman? or if we look at the net—zero zealots that lee has just been talking about. the need for cheaper energy is being drowned out by some very active campaigners. live now to our political correspondent hannah miller. just explain how this popcon group fits into the others that the tory party have like the erg and new conservatives

what's your initial reaction to liz truss project? will you be there ? there?her group, you know, another version of the erg, perhaps another version of any of the groups concerned party have managed to pit against each other. uh, during the last four years. this is just proof of more division in the conservative party that somebody feels they have to set up a group, uh, in order to oppose what is going on at the moment. uh, so that is first. and the second thing is, and nigel isn't speaking, nigel isn't setting this group up. uh, nigel will be there to observe, but i think he's doing a rather splendid job of showing what the divisions in the tory party are. uh, and if you haven't got a unhed uh, and if you haven't got a united party, you haven't got a hopein united party, you haven't got a hope in a general election, because the public absolutely hate disunity . hate disunity. >> and you were a lifelong conservative and a serving mp, a government minister very loyal to the cause . you left the party to the cause. you left the party with a heavy heart. why have

there was the popcorn conference, liz truss, _ rishi subak?

as liz truss changing injuries. as liz truss says, democracy has become unpopular.he unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas . the popular conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcon, as it's known, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats accused some of those present at today's launch of economic vandalism, but mistrust told gb news she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far for a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communications following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mp. london office mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week , telling us at gb news that week, telling us at gb news that he feared for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats, as well as an arson attack on his finchley and golders green constituency office. his energy suppliers will soon have to pay customers £30 if they fail to complete their customers switch to another firm within f

you think if he removes the | whip from people who are without a date like liz truss and check this weekk he might win the next election? i week mark he might win the next election? ., ., ~' week mark he might win the next election? ., ., ~ , ., , election? i do not think it is as that. election? i do not think it is as that -- _ election? i do not think it is as that. -- jacob _ election? i do not think it is as that. -- jacob rees-mogg. - election? i do not think it is as that. -- jacob rees-mogg. i i election? i do not think it is as . that. -- jacob rees-mogg. i think election? i do not think it is as - that. -- jacob rees-mogg. i think he that. —— jacob rees—mogg. i think he has got _ that. —— jacob rees—mogg. i think he has got to— that. —— jacob rees—mogg. i think he has got to present the party as a united _ has got to present the party as a united front and the disunity dog in the party— united front and the disunity dog in the party is — united front and the disunity dog in the party is making it virtually unelectable. the public do not vote for divided — unelectable. the publi

uh, tory, the liz truss budget. uh, can totally be.e heard attributed. >> i have heard nothing from rachel reeves about , for rachel reeves about, for example, the size of our deficit. any different to the conservative party whatsoever . conservative party whatsoever. it's as if there's this gigantic elephant in the room. £110 billion a year interest payments, because i can't see a difference because. >> because , because austerity >> because, because austerity was a failed policy. chasing the deficit is a failed policy. economists across the political spectrum will say this . and here spectrum will say this. and here is where you just go on borrowing . here is where i think borrowing. here is where i think we find some agreement. we will find some agreement. nigel, really like it nigel, i really don't like it when politicians any party when politicians of any party continue to follow whatever the narrative is being served by, by the media, by broadcasters , by the media, by broadcasters, by pundits, because obviously the job of the me

and the difference with her liz truss is liz. liz her and liz truss is liz.es. >> yes. right. >> yes. right. >> going back to millais, what i do like is that he went to davos and he basically said to everybody davos , look, you everybody at davos, look, you need stop this social ism need to stop this social ism because you are actually restricting people's freedoms by not allowing them to be capitalists and not allowing them to generally have freedom and make money. and i love the fact that he said that to davos. >> he's fabulous. >> he's fabulous. >> flew there >> and he flew there on a commercial instead uh, commercial jet instead of, uh, flying there private jet. flying there on a private jet. anyway, the saturday anyway, next on the saturday night why night showdown, why have we allowed threats from islamists to derail our to completely derail our parliamentary system? plus on a slightly lighter note, who would win in a fight between a man and a tree ? take a at this >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back to the saturday night showd

liz truss. >> no. liz truss. >> no.>> telegraph now scott the >> yeah. telegraph now scott the latest women hit latest version of women hit hardest student loans. >> oh more about female >> oh god. more about female graduates. god can you call your friends? i was going to be the one to say, god, more about one to say, oh, god, more about how difficult it is for a girl to education look to get an education look apparent . girls get when they've apparent. girls get when they've got a new payback plan for student loans . that's called student loans. that's called plan five. it starts sooner at a lower grade of payment and obviously goes longer to pay it off because it starts now. when you make 25,000 a year, instead of plus and apparently girls of 27 plus and apparently girls get lesser paid lower income jobs and boys do . so boys are jobs and boys do. so boys are going to have have, uh, an easier time paying back their loan. i mean, they save money because they'll pay it back quicker. >> that's true. but the main, the mai

that was liz truss speaking on the main stage. just a few moments ago.mpressed we managed to get the clip up as quickly as that. now, when i first came to cpac and spoke in 2012, i wasn't just the only brit here. i was the only foreigner here and i came back again in 2013 and i was completely alone. and now we have people here. fact , the have people here. in fact, the argentinian newly elected president will be here on saturday. we've got people coming from over the coming to cpac from all over the world, including former british prime minister liz truss. hotfoot off the stage. how was it? great >> fantastic. lots of conservative energy. >> and isn't that the thing? you know, as i say, i've been coming to this regularly year after year and i've been to see pax in australia and elsewhere. there's something the conservative movement in america has grass roots going all the way up. that's just missing in britain completely. >> well, we are developing that with popcorn. that's what popcorn is all about. it is about about conservative policies and getting gr

liz truss is the lead speaker.ave the west or something. it's going to try something. it's going to be try and out view of how to and set out her view of how to run a country despite her failing to do so in 41 days. remember um, the remember vividly. um, so the idea try and draw the idea is to try and draw the centre number 10 back to the right of politics. that's what's going on here with the policy of stopping the boats, low taxes and the rest. we know it. we're familiar with it. mark littlewood, a former head of the institute of economic affairs, the think tank, is the thatcherite think tank, is going to run it. i think this is a an issue. as i say, a really an issue. as i say, it's a pressure group. what tories do, if they can't feel they're being heard the they're being heard by by the leadership, form leadership, if they form a pressure we know there pressure group, we know there are five families. the erg, the european research of tory european research group of tory mps eurosceptic wing mps on the euroscept

um, not truss, liz truss um, not liz truss, liz truss and people like seem to think people like her seemokay to, um, let children do they and be be ill do what they want and be be ill as a consequence of that . so as a consequence of that. so looking children's health, looking after children's health, which is a bit back to other which is a bit back to the other story seems story we're covering, seems like a idea, the nanny a good idea, not the nanny state. well, i don't think it's a good idea, not the nanny stnannyall, i don't think it's a good idea, not the nanny stnanny state don't think it's a good idea, not the nanny stnanny state ifn't think it's a good idea, not the nanny stnanny state if you hink it's a good idea, not the nanny stnanny state if you lookit's a good idea, not the nanny stnanny state if you look at it, a nanny state if you look at it, but she'd be the nanny state. >> it should be if you're being poisoned. you know, if custard creams killing us, they creams are killing us, they shouldn't be for sale in a supermarket. tell the truth. >> and i quite like wes streeting

and the reason i say that johnson, liz truss that is boris johnson, liz truss and sunak promised us highnak promised us high skill, highly skill, high wage, highly selective immigration policy that in the words that would give us, in the words of the of the of johnson, the best of the best, the brightest best, best of the brightest global talent. what we now know from the data we actually got from the data is we actually got low wage , low skill, low wage, low skill, non—selective migration, which is increase rapidly. is going to increase rapidly. another 6.6 million people by 2036, 6.1 million of those people, because of immigration, the rest because of the natural growth of our population. we've got a housing crisis that nobody has got serious answer to. has got a serious answer to. we're talking about supply. we're talking about supply. we're about demand . we're not talking about demand. we've pressure we've got unprecedented pressure on the nhs, an issue , by the on the nhs, an issue, by the way, that i just think rishi sunak can never win on the nhs relative to labour. that will al

do you think, as sajid javid said, former colleague of yours, that liz truss should have known betteralked about the deep state undermining her, which many other reviewers would say is a conspiracy theory. she should have called it out. what i say is that when the cameras are on you and you have got a big debate going on, you sometimes don't catch every single word that someone says. that is for liz to explain why she did not call it out at the time. i know this sounds like a slightly trite point, but when you've body is on you, a debate going on, sometimes you not catch everything. your extremism chief, robin simcox, sat in the chair last week and we had a serious discussion about all of this. he told us about the rising anti—semitism and also the rise in islamophobia as being a very serious issue. when the prime minister put a statement out last night condemning extremism, calling out anti—semitism, that statement did not mention islamophobia. why not? well, the prime minister has been robust in showing that there is zero tolerance for islamophobia. the point the prime minister was

economy, not just the liz truss budget , but economy, not just the liz truss budget, but also now theong to come to this decision, though, to bin an arbitrary number, that truss was number, given that liz truss was prime minister, what, 18 months ago ? maybe you could have junked ago? maybe you could have junked it then? well i you know, since then the government has said it's going to max out the credit card . card. >> um, so rather than think about what the economy needs, they're going to think about what they can desperately do as they election. what they can desperately do as the that election. what they can desperately do as the that was election. what they can desperately do as the that was briefed i. what they can desperately do as the that was briefed out just >> that was briefed out just a few ago. few weeks ago. >> look, i gone through >> but look, i have gone through a to reassure a process i wanted to reassure myself we could keep to the myself that we could keep to the commitments that made, commitments that we've made, that the right that they were the right commitments

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. event featuring liz truss.t's truss up to? anna do what's liz truss up to? anna do you think? >> i think she's, um, knowingly stirring the pot. would be would be technical tum for be the technical tum for it. i think liz truss obviously knows that she has future in that she has no future in a return leadership bid, but she makes no secret that she would probably be in a probably like to be in a position kingmaker in any position of kingmaker in any future. i going to say future. i was going to say kingmaker than comeback kingmaker rather than comeback queen, probably queen, i think is probably the best idea. queen, i think is probably the best ideyou interviewed gillian >> um, you interviewed gillian keegan newspaper, the keegan in your newspaper, the mail her mail on sunday. i've got her coming up in just a moment. is she a leadership contender? do youis she is cited as one of the >> is she is cited as one of the leadership contenders, but still the ones in the lead are definitely kemi badenoch penny mordaunt.