so please join me in welcoming liza to the podium. [applause] >> thank you, mike, for this kind of introduction and thank you hoover, it can be very dry and technical subject and i salute you all for recognizing its importance and taking the time to understand the core issues that lie beneath the complexities and jargon. i want to tell you a story. to tell you a story i have to go back to 1940's, end of world war ii. national security state was in infancy and very few laws or even very few internal regulations saying what the intelligence agencies could do or couldn't do. it was pretty much under the control of edgar hoover. our wartime ally russia had morphed seamlessly to our enemy. the fbi responded with a campaign of widespread domestic surveillance. cia and nsa joined in the act citing the possibility of foreign involvement and domestic movements even though that was never proven and gradually over a period of decades the specter of foreign communist became the basis for infiltration, systematic harassment of a range of social ju

. >> liza goitein. she isco director of the liberty. and national security profiling, transparency, accountability, checks and balances and detainee policy. one quick note. when liza finishes this session we're going to offer you a chance to go upstairs to our rooftop. it's a nice day and we have a little reception up there in the sunshine and spring weather. so, please join me in welcoming liza to the podium. [ applause ] >> thank you, mike, for that kind introduction and thanks to the hoover institution for inviting me and thanks for coming and staying. i mean, this section 702, i'm well aware, can be a very dry, very technical subject, and i salute you all for recognizing its important and for taking the time to understand the core issues that lie beneath the complexities and the jargon. i want to start by telling you a story. and to tell the story from the beginning i have to go back to the 1940s to the end of world war ii. the national security state was in the infancy and very few laws or really even internal regulations saying wh

liza is co-director of the liberty and national security program at the brennan center for justice. prior to that she served as counsel to u.s. senator russ feingold who at the time was the chairman of the senate's sm subcommittee on the constitution. on the judiciary committee. she handled liberty and national security matters. focus on government secrecy and privacy rights, hence our joy at getting her here today to complete our program. also worked as a trial attorney in the federal programs branch of the civil division of the department of justice, and her area of expertise is what she is about to speak on, liberty national security, the tension between privacy and national security profiling, transparency, accountability, checks and balances, and detainee policy. one quick note. when liza finishes this session we're going to offer you a chance to go upstairs to our rooftop. it's a nice day and we have a little reception up there in the sunshine and spring weather. so, please join me in welcoming liza to the podium. [ applause ] >> thank you, mike, for that kind introduction and

so, please join me in welcoming liza to the podium. [ applause ]

. >> i am liza. there may be a misperception among some people that 702 was somehow to authorize incidental collection. one of the main purposes of the statute was so that communications between foreigners and americans could be picked up without one or without the order so that the government could look and see which americans they wanted to focus on. i just want to point out that there is a bit of attention between what you just said that it's critical for us to know who this american is and to say that we wanted to know who the american was on the other side. i point that out because i think there is a lot of misunderstanding. with that term, it allows the government to say the statute is only, the interest is only in the foreigners, and that's clearly not the case. >> to their point, i think it's important to be precise. i'm not in the government now, but in terms of my own understanding and how we thought about it was we were trying to figure out who in the united states could be a terrorist and

so, please join me in welcoming liza to the podium. [applause] >> thank you.hank you for inviting me and thank you to you for coming and staying. i mean, this section 702, i'm well aware, can be a very dry, very technical subject, and i salute you all for recognizing its important and for taking the time to understand the core issues beneath the complicities. >> i want to tell a story from. the 1940s, the end of world war ii. the national security city was in the infancy and very few laws or really even internal regulations saying what the intelligence agencies could and couldn't do. the fbi operated without any legislative charter and it was under pretty much the complete control of j. edgar hooverrer who had a sort of tire -- tyranny. fear of communism was everywhere and just as great as our fear of terrorism item. the fbi had a campaign of widespread domestic surveillance. the cia and the nsa joined in the act citing the possibility of foreign involvement in domestic movements, even though that was never proven. gradually over a period of decades, the spect

liza is much more down on proposals of the sort but she has a whole keynote to tell you about why it's a bad idea. >> one more question. yes, in the back. >> i have a question for mr. baker. what are the subplot surrounding the 702 debate whether whether or not the intelligence community will disclose the est of number of u.s. persons who are implicated in 702 surveillance. as you guys mentioned it's mental to be a foreign intelligence program but it does ensnare many u.s. persons. the former number two at the nsa said he did think that an estimate would be provided to congress and the public by the end of the year. they thought they would get an estimate early enough to perform debate but still waiting. it continues to be something that privacy advocates have pushed for. does the fbi support a disclosure of the amount of u.s. persons implicated by 702 or as the agency in any way tried to push back on that effort or resist it? thank you. >> well, first of all, not our job to go counting what

off at the end of season three and we find out basically how kelsey deals with this bombshell that liza>> it's interesting because the whole premise of the show is this secret. so as the secret starts to be revealed, how -- where does the show go from that? you know what i'm saying? >> well, i think that's what in way makes this our most interesting season yet. the not about -- it's in the just about the secret this season. it's about the relationships and how these -- these characters have crow 88ed really intimate relationships and how a lie has affected those relationships and i think it's very much about the cost of lying and i think, um, the whole -- we really definitely into especially the first episode we have fabulous guest star kristin jenn know witnesses who plays kellyanne conway pitching a book about life and, you know, she's very much a proponent much this idea of creating your reality and alternative facts. we really explore the idea of how important is truth and how do we create and shape our own entities. >> we all lie. i mean it's a human thing to do. but war the ramifi

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