, which most of us know about the rhyme as kids. >> lizzie borden killed home run stepmother andan ax. >> jimmy: they say she killed them, but she was acquitted of killing them. >> yeah, but she was guilty. >> jimmy: i tell you something, i happen to have read about this story. there's a guy named bill game james who wrote a book called popular crime. he investigates these famous stories. and he concluded she absolutely did not kill him. >> that's so weird because everything i read online is that she definitely did it. >> jimmy: well, that's online. this is a book. >> see, yours is probably better. >> jimmy: mine is on paper. it's not imaginary like your friend prince. it's a real thing on a shelf and everything. >> you know, i made the movie. and in the movie, she's guilty. >> jimmy: so when you were making the movie, you were thinking of her as -- >> we kind of had to make a decision. so there's a foundation of behavior, and the director and i kind of decided that yes, she was guilty. and where i went from there was just how she sort of manipulated and deceived everybody. and w