. >> guest: she was quite a character and much of what reagan said about lizzie taylor was not true but years later when she was investigated she was quite an impressive criminal. hardly a traditional one. >> host: the most amazing thing before you get into some questions is that people who are poor want to work. >> guest: they do indeed. >> host: i am on a daily basis looking at my colleagues with the notions that these are ne'er-do-wells, lazy people who don't want to work who are constantly lacking in personal responsibility and they don't want to work. they want to game the system and in your book you describe the eighth folks here come the 18 that you follow but the aid in this book and people who are connected to the workforce in some style dragger study. let's start with my first question. you start the book out by describing, we talked about the welfare reformers touting the success of welfare reform and he said and i need some clarification on this, 68% of low income single mothers were employed after the touted welfare reform of 1996. then you said 75% of them were working at