it had been used previously by the british prime minister, david lloyd george, making a similar speech it was suspected in the white house to preempt and to steal publicity from him. who knows? lloyd george sketched out a liberal world of the post-war world in which he talked about self determination. and although the term now i think forever associated with wilson he does not use it initially all that much and uses it later on and in the 14 points he talks about the sort of liberal world order he wants, a world in which there is open diplomacy, openly arrived at. a lot of americans are now this blame the war in europe on secret agreement, secret diplomacy. the idea that relations will be transparent. that in fact doesn't last and something that's very, very difficult to do. he talks about community of nations, collective security, and this, of course, is the forerunner of the league of nations. he talks not about self determination but he talks about autonomy for the different parts of the empire. he talks about helping russia to find its way. he talks about disarmament. he talks abou

comes with someone reacting to something that someone else said, whether it be lloyd benson to dan quayle, whether it's george nod and smirk at al gore. it's obama's rejoinders to mccain and romney. this is his debate, and the other candidates will distinguish and define themselves by how they react to the situation as it unfolds live tonight. and they will react in the reflection of donald trump. it's just as simple as that. >> that's a great point about the reaction. we saw a couple -- of course, ronald reagan tilting his head, going there you go again, to jimmy carter. also, the moment where george w. bush did nothing but look at al gore who got in his face and kind of went like that and finished the answer and looked at him like, weirdo. back off. >> you talk about who needs to step up. who can? i don't see one who can step up and really kind of get out of the pack of ten, and none of them, except donald trump, can take this picture. that's actually important. thank you very much. michael duffy, thank you as well. we'll look for the new issue of "time" magazine on the surprising joy of virtual reality. ok