david lloyd george -- 1916. david lloyd george is a colorful figure. today, he is not as easily remembered as winston churchill. by david lloyd george is a fiery political leader. he comes from the wrong side of the tracks. he is welsh, not english. he is also a small-town lawyer who has made his reputation by defending tenants against big landlords. he is seen as a radical. a radical. but he is a passionate person, committed to victory, victory in this war. ast as france is producing leader to keep the war going, so britain has lloyd george. lloyd george gave a speech that is really remarkable. here are the key elements. at a time when many people were saying that this war would be short, it would be over in six months or a year, lloyd george to power.ng truth in a democracy, the power are the people. he was telling them it will not be an easy war, it will be tough, a terrible war. but in the end, he predicts final victory over germany, as he called it, a march through terror to triumph. again, what wonderful language. and in this speech as well, he l

he could get hung up on little lloyd george liked him.here are various reports of his conversation during the peace conference. he complained about him sometimes, wilson would get on his high horse and deliver what lloyd george called sermonettes, and lloyd george did not like being lectured in at way. who would?he complained about hm sos. wilson would get on his high horse and deliver sermons about things and he did not like being lectured in that way, they did not think of themselves as immoral leaders. brian: wilson had listened to lloyd george's play and burst it out, you make me sick. what was he talking about? patricia: that was a -- brian: it came from bernard baruch. lloyd george offering another explanation for wilson's stiffness. make me me sicku -- you sick." did he talk to other leaders of like that all the time? patricia: no, he didn't. i cannot remember why he was so angry in the moment. there was a big crisis over italy, which had joined the war, it had been neutral and then it joined the war with the expectation of getting

sermonettes, and lloyd george did not like being lectured in that way.hey did not think of themselves as immoral leaders. they cared about the world is much as he did. brian: here is a quote from your book, wilson had listened to lloyd george's plea and said, you make me sick. what was that about? patricia: that was -- brian: there was another explanation for wilson's stiffness. you make me sick. did he talk this way to other leaders? patricia: no, and i cannot remember why he was so angry in the moment. it could have been there was a big crisis over italy, which had joined the war. neutral and then i joined the war with the expectation of getting quite a lot of territory on the other side. that was a huge crisis and it might have been they were fighting about that. i am sorry i can't remember. brian: this is what book for you? patricia: five. brian: which of the others sold the best? patricia: probably the roosevelt book. "when trumpets call." brian: our guest has been patricia o'toole, the book is called "woodrow wilson and the world he made, the moral

he is also critical of the lloyd george, even more than wilson in that book.e referred to wilson as something like he was the bamboozled presbyterian, and it bamboozlesible to un- him. one of wilson's great flaws in international affairs and dealing with republicans, he was not a good negotiator. he did not like negotiation. --thought that it leader that a leader should figure out the right thing to do, the moral thing that would also serve the american people's more material interest in to fight for it. he thought if you negotiated, you would compromise and what you ended up with would be less version hehe pure came up on his own after looking at things from different angles. that hecould find wh you gave something up, youion could ask for something in return, that is the basic thing. his second secretary of state complained about this in his diary, that wilson did not understand the give and take of negotiations. but wilson went to the peace conference saying he did not want any material things for the united states. what he wanted was the league of nations,

he goes off and negotia with lloyd george and bigg does the big triumph that he comes away with is theleague of nations, the covenant for the league of nations, and they made that part of the treaty of verse i. the british supported his efforts to do this and the french were brought along. they had to fight the very hard right in france, the militarists who did not think the league of nations could do it but it was brought to being on paper and effective charter for it. wilson comes home with the treaty that has to be ratified by two thirds majority and he's sure he's.together because the senate have never before failed to ratify a peace treaty and things did not work out that way. his big antagonist is the senator from massachusetts, a conservative republican who does not think the league can work. when i went to high school, he was pretrade as the evil isolationists who didn't want the u.s. to take part in world affairs and that's quite unjust to him part he wanted the united states to take part in be a good world citizen, but he didn't want the league of nations or anyone else outsi

it is why in the members lobby of the house of commons clement attlee stands alongside lloyd george,qualor, ignorance, want, idleness and disease should be tackled by collective effort. there was a cross—party consensus on the co re was a cross—party consensus on the core principles that on the ride our nhs. it has been under the stewardship of conservatives for 43 yea rs stewardship of conservatives for 43 years and labour for 27 years. throughout that time the core values of insured. when we took office in 2010 we recognised its unique importance. at a time when we had to make difficult decisions on government spending in order to deal with the deficit left us, be protected and prioritised the nhs with real terms increases in spending each and every year. that investment has delivered significant ribbon for patients. clinical outcomes are better for almost every condition with the example 7000 more people alive today due to improved cancer survival. the number of staff recommending the care of their own organisation in the friends and family organisation in the friends and fa m ily

headlined "meet the antiabortion trump appointee taking care separated kids," they write -- lloyd also served in the george. bush administration as an attorney at hhs, health and human services, cowriting the no care on moral grounds. that is the piece of politico describing the man of what will happen to these dozens of chilildren taken from their parents. it does not sound like he has much experience with refugees, debbie nathan. >> that's right. shelters that house young females, there have been several cases where they have come up and pregnant and wanted abortions and have gone through judicial bypass in texas so they have been given permission in texas to get an abortion, but he will not allow them to get abortions. he is ever cater their legal right in the united states -- abrogated their legal abortion rights. amy: he personally went down to texas to try to prevent an immigrant woman from getting an abortion. is that right? >> yes, but not only that, there are records were it is clear he is intervene even without being in texas. and you go i want to turn to new york, is member kathleen rice. appare