that was lloyd griffith speaking to my colleague ben brown earlier, he was an eyewitness. by the terrorist incident at london bridge, victim support can offer free and confidential help and support. you can call their 24—hour support line on 08 08168 9111. the headlines on bbc news: two members of the public have died after being stabbed in what police describe as a terrorist incident on london bridge. bbc understands the attacker was a former prisoner convicted of a terrorism offence out on license. heated exchanges in the bbcs election debate in cardiff, as conservative and labour brexit plans are described as a "lie" and a "cop—out." three people have been wounded after a stabbing on a shopping street in the hague. in cardiff, during tonight's bbc election debate, all the participants expressed their horror at the events on london bridge and paid tribute to the victims and the emergency services. the debate itself saw heated exchanges over brexit, with conservative claims they could "get brexit done" being described as a "lie" and labour's position branded as a " 0ur po

lloyd griffiths, thank you very much for joining us, lloyd griffiths, who found some that from the buse it earlier on in the reports, you saw some of the heads of the uk to counter terrorism at for the metropolitan police called let's hear a little bit more of that statement to get this afternoon, in which you get the latest details that the police have. i can confirm that the police have. i can confirm that approximately 2pm today, police we re that approximately 2pm today, police were called to a stabbing at a premises near to london bridge. emergency services attended, including officers from the city of london police and the metropolitan police called a male suspect was shot by armed officers from the city of london police, and i can confirm that the suspect died at the scene. a number of other people received injuries during this incident your meadow as soon as injuries during this incident your meadow as soon as we can injuries during this incident your meadow as soon as we can provide updates on their condition, we will, and our heartfelt sympathies go out to everyone involved i

. >> he has a knife. [ gunshots ] >> we want to bring in lloyd griffiths, the man who shot the video ed on london bridge. lloyd, thank you for call in. that must have been trawl tumatg to see that. >> it was very, very traumati traumatizi traumatizing. a horrible experience. just something you can hardly think about, really. >> what made you decide to pull out your phone and start recording? >> i was actually on my phone before. then i realized there was an altercation happening so i kind of pressed record. i was leaning on the top deck of a london bus. i was kind of scrolling on my phone. i saw the altercation and i just kind of pressed record and felt like something was happening and i didn't quite understand what was going on. >> so back up for us and talk to us about what was happening around the time of day when this took place, when you were passing by, and happened to just witness what police are now responding to as potentially terror related? do you know who this person was? how many people were involved? can you set the scene for me? >> i can just tell you what i saw. when i