lloyd russell—moyle, you've studied this, you've looked at this.bers? >> again? well, there's two elements of the overall numbers of people being diagnosed have increased. and out of that increased. and out of that increase it comes from two areas. one are people who are born outside of britain but are now in britain. and another way of cutting the pie to look at the surge of increase is people who contracted hiv outside of britain. now, we don't know. these people could be british citizens. they could have been people who have been here a long time. but the increase is interesting, isn't it? and the increase is from that group of people. now, what we have to do when you see any increase is you have to look to see where testing or the data source has changed and what we changed last yearis changed and what we changed last year is doing routine testing of everyone that goes into a&e in our cities and big towns now is automatically diagnosed with hiv, whereas before you would have to have gone to a sexual health clinic or effectively pregnant woman.

com i'm joined now by the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle. ery much for coming in, letting your most senior adviser go, who you've appointed, who is your person after only three months, is a terrible sign of weakness. isn't it? >> it is difficult to see how it is a positive move , particularly is a positive move, particularly that he's appointed morgan mcsweeney. your viewers might not know , but it was morgan not know, but it was morgan mcsweeney that recruited keir starmer. it was morgan mcsweeney that said to care, we will make you prime minister if you do what we say. and if you dance to our tune, sue gray was keir's woman. sue gray was appointed by keir and sue gray, danced to keir's tune. now his most senior adviser will not instead be dancing to keir's tune, but will be instructing keir on how to dance. now i think that is a problem for a prime minister, because it means that you don't have people that you know are trusted around you, but it also means that other advisers will know that his word is not his bondin know that his word is n

lloyd austin called the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar an opportunity for a cease-fire between israel and hamas. the secretary made the remarks during a news conference at nato headquarters in russells following meeting with his far nato cannot parts. he also addresses questions on the russia-ukraine more. -- war. sec. austin: good afternoon, everyone. it is good to be back at nato. i want to start with a few words about the middle east. as you all know, israel yesterday killed sinwar, the leader of hamas. that's a major achievement, and it opens a major opportunity for progress. sinwar was the architect of the october 17 harvest assault on israel -- october 7 terrorist assault on israel. his plot left 1200 people dead, including civilians from more than 30 other countries. and that includes the united states. he was responsible for the deaths of many americans over the years, including more than 40 americans murdered on october 7 and four murdered american hostages. sinwar devoted his life to wrecking the chances of peace between israelis and the palestinians. he's finally been brought to justice. and that removes a huge obstacle. our top priority is the 101 hostages still kidnappe

but with me now is a friend of the programme, the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle. very much for coming in. was the manifesto carelessly phrased because labour is in an awful tangle over this working people issue? >> well, i think manifestos are broad brush documents that say this is the direction of travel that we will go in. they are not detailed tax law. they're not detailed tax law. they're not detailed policy. they're not the laws that come out of that policy. but they are broad brush. and i think it was quite clear in the campaign that there were to be tax rises. your party, the conservatives, pushed the labour party very hard on the fact that council tax might rise, and they refused to rule that out. they also pushed

russell—moyle, former labour mp. lloydow, i mean, he has made the point that he could see this problem was coming, that the criminal base has expanded for a variety of reasons, that the last government should have built more prisons. i mean, i don't think anyone's going to say that's not correct, but quite a powerful point he makes there that if you're going to release people out, you need to know at least there's an address to go to. >> yeah. so the last government also helped destroy the probation service. they privatised it then collapsed. it had to be brought back in house. it's a patchwork service now that doesn't really do rehabilitation properly. so there's lots of problems with there's lots of problems with the criminal justice system. but i actually think we need to take a few more steps back across western. the western world. violent crimes have decreased. it doesn't matter what government's been in. it doesn't really matter what policies you pursued from the us really matter what policies you p

and joining me back in the studio, still with my panel, the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle and r tory mp michael brown. gents, welcome back lloyd , brown. gents, welcome back lloyd, start with you. you raised a fascinating point in the break about how you think this actually might play well with democrat voters in the rust belt. tell us more. >> well , you belt. tell us more. >> well, you heard there belt. tell us more. >> well , you heard there spencer >> well, you heard there spencer saying, oh well , no, classical saying, oh well, no, classical economics says that this is rubbish, i'm afraid one it's an amnesia of actually how america and how europe developed because europe america developed through protectionism first. and once the industry is then ready to compete, just like you do with a child, you don't suddenly shove a child out into the wilderness . a child out into the wilderness. you nurture them, you raise them, you protect them. and then when they are strong, ready to go out into the wide world, you then release them. that's how all countries in the developed world

well, join me now in the studio as my panel and the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle, and the formerbrown. gentlemen, welcome to the show. lloyd, i'm going to start with you. every time there's an incident like this, the far right are to blame . when black right are to blame. when black players miss penalties, it's . or players miss penalties, it's. or the far right or the racists. but when we dive into it, it's often not the case. it's way too simplistic. the proof, the desire to highlight the fact that britain is seething with fascists, with racists is so great. the truth is totally overlooked, and this investigation proves precisely that. most people causing the most trouble online after the southport riots, they weren't even british and they certainly weren't. nigel farage. >> well, i think you are taking one piece of truth and trying to extrapolate that too far. what the report says is that those who were creating the initial lies were these accounts from around the world. well, we've known for a long time that accounts around the world, whether it be russian accounts, whether i

well, join me now in the studio as my panel and the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle, and the formerentlemen, welcome to the show. lloyd, i'm going to start with you. every time there's an incident like this, the far right are to blame . when black right are to blame. when black players miss penalties, it's . or players miss penalties, it's. or the far right or the racists. but when we dive into it, it's often not the case. it's way too simplistic. the proof, often not the case. it's way too simplistic. ,he proof, often not the case. it's way too simplistic. , yes, roof, often not the case. it's way too simplistic. , yes, they do owe those riots, yes, they do owe him an apology if they claim that. but if they claimed that he amplified them, he amplified them in parliament. he amplified them in parliament. he amplified them here. no no no no no. then then actually, that's correct. and he should and he should. and he should have some culpability for amplifying things that he should, as an elected politician, know better. >> what you're doing is precisely what i said at the start. the a

lloyd russell—moyle, former labour member of parliament liam halligan economist and journalist.et's begin. and the whole debate through the houris and the whole debate through the hour is about whether this is a budget for growth. but let's just begin on the national finances. i just feel that neither party are levelling with the public about just how big the public about just how big the national debt is getting. >> well, the national debt. nigel, is the thick end of 100% of gdp. what does that mean? it means that the debt that we have to pay back as a government, albeit through time, is equivalent to the size of the entire economy in a single year. in context, back in 2009, before the financial crisis, the national debt was about 30% of gdp, and before covid, it was about 80% of gdp. it's now 100% of gdp. there's lots to talk about. of gdp. there's lots to talk about . the sort of big picture about. the sort of big picture of this budget is that rachel reeves just increased spending by about £70 billion a year. she increased taxation by about 40 odd billion pounds a year, most