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well, with me now is a great friend of the program, lloyd russell—moyle, who luckily enough attended r. lloyd, thank you for coming in. i assume you want labour to win elections in future if they're going to be charging $1,000 a year to voters to pay money to foreign governments for climate change, that they won't then do much about, it's not going to work, is it? >> well, i think that we have to step back a little bit from this language of reparations, etc, which i don't think is very helpful for a domestic audience. i don't think that's the language that is based on the rio principles, the rio principles , which were agreed in principles, which were agreed in 1992, a conference that thatcher, of course , supported thatcher, of course, supported greatly was was twofold. one is the polluter should pay , and two the polluter should pay, and two is that we have common but differentiated responsibilities. that means that the globe has to commonly have responsibilities, but each country should effectively pay their way. no one should just be receiving. and of course, some of the middle in

. >> political commentator alex armstrong and ex—labour mp lloyd russell—moyle and what's going on hereease ? get ready, on here? please? get ready, britain. here we go . britain. here we go. if you're white british, you're at the back of the queue under labour. next . next. >> a very good evening to you. it's just gone 9:00. i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. a developing story this evening. six teenagers have been arrested after a 13 year old girl was found with multiple stab wounds at the site of a major road in east yorkshire . police said she east yorkshire. police said she was found on the a63 in hessle with life threatening injuries, including lacerations to her neck, abdomen, chest and back. four boys and two girls aged between 14 and 17, were arrested in a nearby wooded area and are being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder, detective superintendent simon vickers said . police believe the said. police believe the attackers did know the victim. the girl remains in hospital in a critical condition . elsewhere, a critical condition. elsewhere, the fallout from rachel reev

i'm also joined by kwasi kwarteng, former tory mp and chancellor, and lloyd russell—moyle, former labourris is doing it as well. ian. boris is doing it as well. bofis ian. boris is doing it as well. boris says ukraine is going to win. it's not, is it? >> well, can i just declare an interest here? i have a charity that works feeding people right behind the front line. i visited on a number of occasions. i'm going out there. it's sometime soon. i hope. i've seen the devastation that's been wrought by the by the russians. it is quite beyond belief, and you have to be there to see it. bodies still lying around can't it wasn't decision, but it wasn't particularly clear. i worry about this, and i worry because i think the idea ukraine's going to win , frankly, is for the to win, frankly, is for the birds. i think the war has gone on for long enough that the casualties are massive. i think all we're doing is helping to prolong a stalemate. that's my view. and it has been actually for some time. but strategically , for some time. but strategically, donald trump, in 59 days time will be in the whi

com but i'm joined now by the former labour mp and friend of the programme, lloyd russell—moyle. you very much for coming in. this is shouting into the sea, isn't it.7 because labour's just not serious about it. >> no, i think that your introduction doesn't base on historically how we've got these numbers down. let's remember the numbers down. let's remember the numbers were rising year on year up until 2002. so all through the 90s, at the end of the major government, and they peaked in 2002, and they did that for a number of reasons. one, one could argue, was global politics. but if you remember, 2002 was hardly a year of no invasions. you know, we invaded afghanistan and iraq shortly afterwards. but but what we did do is we dealt with the backlog and one of the quickest ways of deterring people to come was to say, your assessment will be made very quickly and within a matter of weeks or months, you will be either back out on a ship home, or you will have been settled here. and that will put the numbers 1505 00:09:35,080 --> 00

former chancellor of the exchequer and conservative mp kwasi kwarteng, and the former labour mp lloyd russell—moylen, welcome to the studio. let's just go through a few of the points. i watched this speech earlier on. i was astonished. but look, let's go through what the solutions are. number one, a review of the echr and the human rights act. a review, not not an actual action to leave two strict numerical caps on immigration. chris hope asked for a number. there wasn't a figure . there was a framework. figure. there was a framework. three fully transparent costs on benefits and housing. what is costing the country for zero tolerance for foreign criminals with a view to deporting them. if necessary, and 0.5 to review the data on accessing to benefits. kwasi kwarteng this. all of this could have been done in the past 14 years. isn't it a bit rich to suddenly talk tough now you're facing down the barrel of just being in the wilderness for years. but what are you meant to do as an opposition? you've made made mistakes in government, but the fact that you made mistakes in government doesn't mean you j

communications manager at the institute of economic affairs, reem ibrahim, and former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle, alex, i'll start with you. i actually do wonder if there's a case to be set for this farm grab being a little bit racist. i mean, disproportionately affects the white nuclear family, doesn't it? >> well, it's not unusual for labour to target the traditional engush labour to target the traditional english culture, is it? i mean, look at what starmer is proposing with the pubs. and even though he might even be u—turning on that, patrick, i think the reality is, is that he's proposing for the pubs. well, he was going to he's going to be paying the smugglers. >> i thought he's, he's reduced tax so we can enjoy our one by one penny. >> one penny. what is that, 99. what is that, 9.99 a pint in england? is it in london? especially in london anyway. but i think you've got a point, patrick. and i think farmers have disproportionately been affected. you've only got to watch jeremy clarkson's fantastic amazon show to see he is very how many regulations and laws are, are really , really laws are

i'm also joined by kwasi kwarteng, former tory mp and chancellor, and lloyd russell—moyle, former labourboris is doing it as well. ian. boris is doing it as well. bofis ian. boris is doing it as well. boris says ukraine is going to win. it's not, is it? >> well, can i just declare an interest here? i have a charity that works feeding people right behind the front line. i visited on a number of occasions. i'm going out there. it's sometime soon. i hope. i've seen the devastation that's been wrought by the by the russians. it is quite beyond belief, and you have to be there to see it. bodies still lying around can't be retrieved . shelling directly be retrieved. shelling directly and deliberately of ordinary people's homes. the problem has been that ukraine has had to fight this war with two hands tied behind its back. russia has been able to lob directed missiles at every single part of ukraine civilian areas, cities, etc. ukraine has not been able to return the favour. you can't win a war unless you fight a full war. there's no such thing as a limited war. gives you anything at all. so th

com but i'm joined now by the former labour mp and friend of the programme, lloyd russell—moyle. you very much for coming in. this is shouting into the sea, isn't it.7 because labour's just not serious about it. >> no, i think that your introduction doesn't base on historically how we've got these numbers down. let's remember the numbers down. let's remember the numbers were rising year on year up until 2002. so all through the 90s, at the end of the major government, and they peaked in 2002, and they did that for a number of reasons. one, one could argue, was global politics. but if you remember, 2002 was hardly a year of no invasions. you know, we invaded afghanistan and iraq shortly afterwards. but but what we did do is we dealt with the backlog and one of the quickest ways of deterring people to come was to say, your assessment will be made very quickly and within a matter of weeks or months, you will be either back out on a ship home, or you will have been settled here. and that will put the numbers down. by 2010, they were the lowest that they had ever been under 20,000 a ye

. >> i'm joined in the studio by lloyd russell—moyle, former labour mp and kwasi kwarteng, former conservative conservative mp and former chancellor of the exchequer. lloyd, does this all go back to equalities acts at the end of the labour government? i mean, what is the root of all of this in your view? >> well, i think that there is some of it around going back to equalities and anti—racism, all that kind of stuff. >> but i think that it has got here out of hand. i don't actually think. i think it's got out of hand on all sides. if you remember the crown prosecution service prosecuted the woman who had a placard that said rishi sunak was a coconut. she was brown herself and they prosecuted her, took her unpleasant thing to say but shouldn't be a crime. took her to court and the court found that the crown prosecution service did a wasted public money, had found a completely innocent. but of course, that meant that she was a teacher. she lost her job in that period. she lost herjob in that period. it uprooted her family. the same on the other side. i mean, we don't know what you said in this i