lord lloyd webber. >> i 'm not sure about that because if you try to say lord lloyd webber late at nightrips up even the very best. i thought you did it brilliantly. >> you've just been to the spider-man premier. >> yeah. >> which has been the subject of unbelievable media criticism the last few months. how have they gotten themselves, do you think, into that position? >> i'm not privy to it but the producers who have been involved with it, many people who come from rock. and my guess is that the thinking behind it, it's not bad thinking this at all, my guess is is that they really are thinking of this as a long-term project for arenas, for rock places. therefore, they are perhaps looking at this as a bit of a lost leader, and i think they got themselves into more of a tangle than they thought. >> how are they dealing with it? they're only used to unparallel success in the rock business. this has been by most people's argument would be it's been a bit of a turkey for them, which they're not used to. >> i was sitting behind them last night, practically next door, and they were really deli