. >> we have lots of open community forums, lots of opportunities for people the lme about various things. -- to yell at me about various things. in town hall type forms, we don't get a tremendous amount of participation. the meetings that there is a greatest amount of participation in is when people are very unhappy with the decision, removing a school, removing a principal, we get a lot of people show up. what i would say is that this idea at that generally, let's come together and talk about education is a