e lmendorf, ms. leblanc. anna yee, i can testify to her genuine care of the city. mr. baraka, mr. mcdonnell. we have this debate with other commissions. when people show up, what do we do? -- when people don't show up, what do we do? with that, i will go ahead and say, to start the discussion, i would like to throw my support behind mr. baraka, [unintelligible] i think that is important as well. i would move those three forward. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: well, i can see we're going to have a bit of a discussion. just the three i would put forward are not any of those three. [laughter] the three that i thought stood out -- i like the combination of these three -- mr. elmendorf, mr. mcdonnell, and i it likes the greens of -- and i liked the range of practical experience. professor elmendorf is no political affiliation to the city whatsoever. >> supervisor, there is an overflow room. that room is available. supervisor kim: thank you. >> [unintelligible] supervisor elsbernd: mr. mcdonnell, the demonstrated commitment to the city through his resonate, and his work