local participation. >> we have additional possibilities for local businesses? >> again, the public contract code requires doing at least one half of one percent; to the extent that there is work to be done that is below that threshold, there is potential for the contractor to engage firms to do that work, roughly four million or less. i am not suggesting there is a whole lot of work out there outside of what has been listed in those very small, relative to the size of the contract, pieces but it is possible. >> you care to comment on that? >> yeah. we are going to have another member of our organization speak. with regards to that, again, we have found that there was one local contractor listed. non-minority. very disappointing to our organization, our constituents and i hope it is disappointing to the board. we buy our lunches and pay our payroll taxes here; we have been engaged with mta for five years. thank you. >> stanley chan, followed by oren hellstrom [sounds like]. >> my name is stanley chan, president of value fire protection. we have been operating ou

the local, small businesses. thank you. >> next speaker. >> lance carrin, last speaker. >> mr. carrin. >> let's see. two minutes. hello again. i want to follow the discussion, not sure your name, mr. heinicke, mr. fungi, regarding the problems of the schedule. i recommend the article in the morning's examiner by joe eskinosi [sounds like], a full rundown of the problems. you have a 4.7 week contingency where you should have 10 -- i'm sorry, 4.7 month contingency, should have a 10 month contingency as far as scheduling on a 65 million dollar contingency. you should have 160. mr. fungi said it was dated, it was dated may 16th, reflected up until the end of april. if we were in year four of six years, it would not be a big deal but you have not started this project. you are already in deep trouble as far as the federal government is concerned. i really recommend that you bone up on this; [indiscernible] and get the agency back on track. i would like to point out also that apparently there's serious trouble at union

firms but the local people. these firms might be located in else places but the individuals living san francisco. my team has four members who live in san francisco. >> i don't know as much as i would like about this. i am sensitive to the comments that mr. celstrum, and a very false that he represents; we would love to have as many san francisco businesses involved. i am impressive mr. tutor came to answer questions directly, i appreciate that. the way i see it is a little bit of a legal box for us because of the nature of the funding of this project. putting aside mr. tutor and his firm and their efforts to engage local groups, we can't insist on 14b goals because it is a federally funded project; we cannot insist on local goals as opposed to sbe and those types of goals in a federal project. we are also committed to take the low responsible and responsible bid. if mr. tutor's firm comes in that needs those responsible goals, we are in a box to accept. otherwise if we reject this contract we are sort of stuck

not that easy on the state and local side. even tougher on the federal side and help businesses through certifications and advice and advocacy to the federal contracting agencies how to go out and get access to federal contracts. it's a big role that we play. there is a federal government goal for 23% of all federal dollars to go to small business. we come to close it in the federal agencies come close to that number but don't reach it. about 22 and a half percent this year and there are separate goals for women owned pbs and 5% of contracting should go to women owned business. we fall short of that and three or 4% go to women owned business so sba triers to certify businesses to get access to federal contracting. in the last year that took a long time from the legislation that was passed in 2000 to 2009 a gap of time where that was not put into place. in 2009sba was able to put the small contracting program in place and get that program up. it's had a couple of years to really get access -- for women to get access to the self

that the program includes energy efficiency and build out of local generation and also build out local jobs. i also don't know how much outreach has been done to the local business community. i encourage to you do that. i know the place i work prides itself on being a green company and i think it should be one of the first places you go to and get their buy in and agreement to purchase this locally generated or this local energy program. thank you so much. >> thank you. national next speaker please. >> hello, i'm david mccord. a chair of the club of the san francisco base chapter of energy and climate committee and honored to speak with you today. we want clean power of s f to succeed that creates local jobs. among other cc a's across the country nearly all rates are below the standard rate of the local utility. among the few that are higher, modest premiums are significantly below staff's recommended rate, these include build out of local renewable and energy efficiency services by revenue. we are asking clean power sf to go beyond this. with the results of the customer survey, we bel

however, we are still able to provide for local business and the local business card techs would be minority owned business, women owned business and other business enterprises so those are the three categories by which we are working with and able to assist. now 209 while it became law as part of the constitution here in california, it didn't restrict us from doing technical assistance and outreach as well as tracking businesses. that's -- those two things are very important to women owned business, tracking them and making sure that they have the support and assistance that our city is providing, and getting them to the resources. training and coaching them to and encouraging them to participate in city contract opportunity. beverly is going to talk about the certification process and give you information how many businesses we have certified. >> [inaudible] -- our local business it's so proposition 20 thien doesn't restrict us from tracking our local businesses in terms if they're women or minority so what what we have here is a local business enterprise program and i had up the certifica

that more than 70% of the program participants have been local hires means a big plus 230er our localommunity workforce. we will also hear from the laborer's union local 261 about how we as a city can increase our support for the apprenticeship program and fully promote full-time long-term employment opportunities for program graduates. i understand that we are joined by community-based organizations who work to recruit and prepare [speaker not understood] for the apprenticeship in their local communities, particularly in low-income and economically disadvantaged neighborhoods and their perspectives on the program. ~ finally, i expect we will hear from environmentalists such as the sierra club who has reesen'tly expressed their support for this program both because of its impact on our parks and open spaces and based on the c-l-u-p support for local hiring and sustainable employment policies. ~ finally, i expect that we must touch upon related issues such as whether the department promotes the apprenticeship program and collective bargaining wages and benefits for landscaping, tree tr

because once you start planning on local build out, you are going to have to sequel. so the question is what do we have an appetite to really fund. meanwhile we know that everyone enjoys going solar and it a job creation so that was the money that was identified by the board of supervisors and the mayor asked me to increase solar for the go solar. to answer your question, we at the puc feel we have to do more and how much more do we have an appetite? >> i see the program as a tiny aspect we need to do for the build out. i'm not sure that many envisioned that to be. >> thank you, i appreciate the comments of the general manager. i would respectfully sort of provide a different perspective and just going back to what the board of supervisors approved. when the board of supervisors approved the contract with cell -- shell. it was an understanding that there would be a robust as possible. i don't know that i would put it as the p u c trying to four -- figure out the appetite. in approving the contract with shell is that a robust build out is an important part we do in ter

the local authorities evaluate the situation on the ground and execute what locally is available, then they evaluate shortfalls and what they have and then generate those requirements up h at defined chain of command, as i mentioned earlier. then once those agencies determine what those requirements are, they are given back to the city who employs those as they think they need to be deployed because, again, they are the eyes and understand the local situation. i think going through this that the navy and the marine corps, we're used to being in charge whenever we show up and we're not going to be in this situation. i think it's important for us to understand that and we do and i think we, if we were employed in this certainly would understand that particular chain of command and would be able to fit right in and execute as required by the local situation. >> let me reiterate that the local authorities need to know that the emergency managers, the first responders, are there to be in charge to run things in their local disaster. everyone else that rolls in behind are there to enable the

benefit local merchants. we are determined to stick around and as the saying goes, if i make it here, i make it anywhere. and this time [inaudible]. thank you very much. >> thank you. why don't we now go around the chamber to district seven, supervisor yee. >> i'd like to bring up joanna lay. when i started considering which one small business to recognize from district seven, i realized how lucky i am to be representing -- there are so many businesses that represent our neighborhood. it's unfortunate that i can only recognize one small business, since this is home to one major merchant corridor. at lake side, lakeside plaza, stones town, even part of [inaudible] thinking about the theme of small /pweutz week, small business shaping our communities, there is one personal that kept coming in mind. that person is joanna lay, owner of joe joe's cafe, located on ocean avenue, who has actively been shaping ocean avenue communality for over a deck decade now. she opened it in 2002 and i think she has single handedl

we are hopeful that more local businesses have those opportunities. what we are faced with at this point, recognizing as you say, kind of where we are, our choices to award -- your choice -- to authorize a word of the contract and maximizes opportunities or reject all bids and rebid the contract; about score, you heard talk of where are in terms of schedule contingency. given how costs are escalating in the market it would erode our cost contingency and ultimately i don't think we would get a different outcome. there was talk before about the bundling; you directed questions of the contractor. the public comment was directed at us because we had taken four separate contracts and bundled them. want impetus for doing that, we took into account the potential impact on small business engagement and in the end the gaol that we set for this contract was 20 percent was higher; the low responsible bid we got exceed that goal, up to 25%. initially when we were in the unbundled mode, three different contracts, we bid the first one. the low bid came in not even

but the report explicitly acknowledged that it did not look at the local investment, local build portion of the clean power sf program. so that's how it's distinguished. >> also in terms of the renewable as well >> correct, the contract is on renewable and the local investment component is not located in that chief economist report. >> california certified renewable, yes. >> thank you, we are getting into the territory about why -- we discussed this in the last meeting that there is misinformation put out about the loss of jobs and energy created. that's confused a lot of people in san francisco. although the survey we'll see that was measured perhaps it wasn't a great number of people in san francisco. that information has been out there and it needs to be rebutted by communication staff within offices and puc. commissioner campos? >> i look forward to the information. i think the numbers we have here are pretty encouraging in terms of the numbers put out here, i think a lot of misinformation has been put out there and i think their strategy has been sort of let's throw everything up th

businesses and local workforce. that will help san francisco and the san franciscans to enjoy the stability and prosperity and better living. we are happy that giants and go to set up a mandatory 25 percent local hiring. we hope you can move forward for this entitlement thank you >> thank you. next speaker. >> i'm here today also in support for the project. we see a lot of development coming through this project and with that development there will be opportunity for job placements. i support the resident from san francisco that come from decide advantaged san franciscan community. so we're very pleased to hear about the giants working with the communities and make sure to say union hiring and vienna support of the project. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello local 82. not only have the giants been a great partnerships for the community >> thank you. next speaker please. 61m joseph scott with local 2 project asou know is one of the several important decisions that will come before you on waterfront projects. someti

i agree that we should encourage the contractor to hire locally if possible. i think we have to keep in mind that this project is going to create future work all along the corridor. and slowing it down is not going to serve any of our businesses large or small so i really don't want to delay this. we are going to see this project drive the economy along the corridor in the city and it will create business in the city, that is what we want to see all the businesses large and small benefit and moving forward expeditiously will be the best way to see that. >> director ramos. >> director ramos: i do make sure i understand this. the tremendous amount a funny that we are getting from the feds is such that, this is federal funding coming from washington, dc. you said the lion's share the funding, do not fall from the sky or that we paid out of our pockets, is money come from all over the country. we cannot put limitations on what we expect; theoretically everybody has paid for this project from outside of s san francisco as well. taxation without representation -- is

i know you've been told you don't have to, but this is the board of supervisors, a local body saying let's all agree to do this. what's wrong with that? it's not an admission of anything wrong. >> no. it's not. and in fact, the information on both forms is the same. the issue is the ftpc has said the 801 is the appropriate form. and there concern requirements under 801 of how those solicitations occur and ours does not meet those, it meets 803. i think if this body wanted to request that on a go forward basis, i think that'd been very appropriate, buck based on the information we received -- the advice and conclusion of that look back by the ftpc, the 803 was the appropriate one. >> the problem i have with that is i don't think the city /toerpbl would be advising us to go forward with the 801 wasn't a relevant form. the fact that they're saying that would be the advice here, i would ask the city attorney to think about this because i think it's a different thing of what we're saying. we're saying that we as a policy body believe that all of us should be subjected to the same rules, w

elected official and governor -- once a local elected official, always a local elected official. what i learned from that is partnership is what it's all about. if you want to confront the most vexing problems, you have to bring people across an ideological spectrum, you have to include the business community, you have to include our nonprofit, our faith leaders. that's how you get things done, when you bring people together. and i look around this room and i see that you have already figured that out. i hope some of you had the opportunity to meet lee hirsch because i've done a lot of work with him in the context of our bullying. one of my favorite memories in my experience with lee is that we watched this film together with about a thousand people in sioux falls, south dakota, it was remarkable to watch the reactions of the kids in sioux falls, parents, educators, and we did that same q and a when we were done. i appreciate the wonderful words of your superintendent, that was exactly the dynamic in sioux falls and that's the remarkable thing, superintendent, is that this issue

will thereby local hires out of iow? >> thank you. >> good afternoon madam president and fellow commissioners. my name is patrick kim and i'm a proud member of the iowu for the local 75 for the past 20 years. i represent the work force that works at security and does the screening of all the cruise terminals in san francisco. iow has been in /kpeuls /tapbs since 1979. i reached out before i came here and i was told [inaudible]. local 75 has been the metro's work force for many years. also san francisco is the only port in the usa that employs us as /skrao*epblers of the passengers at the cruise terminal. we look forward to working at the james r her man terminal, pier 27 when it in the summer of 2014 and forever. also for the cruise aspect and the special events. >> thank you. after david hill, stan. >> my name is david hill and i am the vice president of local 34. i'd like to ask the commission to inquire of the two bidders here today a couple of issues that remain a concern for the iowu. the first one being we would li

we support it because of the local hiring the landmark local higher - the landmark local commitment made with the local higher to billed the arena and just to operate it. thank you >> thank you before our next speaker i'm going to call up our remaining speaker cards. (calling names) >> good afternoon. i'm john corn well, i'm president of the homeowners association and also a local businessman in the south market area. i'd like to address the speed of what - i'd like to commend the pr fetter that's being pit into this by warriors and my frenzy who are pr assistants. it's so interesting that this process is moll way too quicken and the real issue is what do you want the legacy to be for this project. this is not the right area. i've harder people say this isn't a residential area it is a residential area. there have been 4 deaths here. in real terms you're talking about thousands of extra car trips and those of you who live or work in that area that area if it has any problems in transportation it's a heartache. i hope you guys slow down and not basically build another freeway. thanks >> g

the people that eat in the local, small, places and the local small places and the people that eat in the big court places eat in big corporate places and so i think that there is room for everybody and there is a lot of good things about everything, and just denying a place is denying the job opportunity, i think that it is the most important thing that this creates a lot of jobs right now, and this is a big opportunity for a lot of kids, that they don't have the training. they don't have the school, they cannot do it to get a job to get themselves toegtd and to progress and to become somebody some day, thank you. >> i am here to support the store and i am a business owner and i think that the competition in general is a healthy thing and promotes, progress and innovation and so it does not matter how many coffee shops are in the area and from the standpoint of a new business owner, i think that it is, the neighbors should be blessed with this project because those who have small, limited resources, cannot finance, you know, the big projects. and this building, requires a lot of inve

into energy efficiency and local generation components. >> thank you, commissioner. >> thank you. i think this discussion gets us probably the more real choice we are going to have to make in the next several weeks and that is how to fund and how much to fund the robust program that everybody says they want. it has been suggested that we should add it to a billion dollars. that exceeds my willingness to fund. the actions of the board of supervisors took back in september not only provided $2 million for going solar but 2 million for energy efficiency and 30 million for local build out. by restructuring the program and it's use for reks as the biggest example you can add to that up to $9.4 million each year that the program is in place. i think that's a question that we have to answer for ourselves and i think one of the questions that the advocates have to answer for themselves is that if there was a program that had $6 million plus call it 7, 2, 9, 4 per year, is that good enough. because very frankly i do this i that's the choice. we make it as good as we can and we have to figu

but everything really starts at the most local level first. so, it's appropriate to hear from captain stow and the network of partnerships that she's dealt here in the bay area, but we have this lattice work that goes across my entire pacific region. and then i need to focus on what do i do in the event of a threat right now in dealing with the arctic. what if i have a deep water horizon spill there? because now it affects the nate and i have indigenous tribes of that part of the world. and how do i flow resources there, recognizing the navy doesn't have ice breakers and our nation has one. so, we do a lot of work with canada when we're starting to work on those contingencies. but we look at the national response framework. it was rewritten post katrina. and another key part of partnerships, when i was the federal on scene coordinator during deep water horizon, it's not in the national response framework, but every parish president, every mayor, every governor had a coast guard liaison officer at the oak pride and above level. so, if they didn

we have heard staff has heard very clearly from sflafco and puc that we need to fund the local opponent and we are trying to find optimum approach for that. we need to demonstrate that we have a revenue stream from this new customer base. so we need to launch the program so that we can demonstrate that we have a customer base and the revenues are coming in and then we can use those fund to begin to fund our local investment and energy efficiency and renewables. these are some of the leaveers how you would to the financials we have talked about. >> strike a balance between maximizing dollars for build out or what the rates are going to be in terms of customers? >> right. you can do a mix. you can take that just using this example on robust renewals mix. you can take that and refund some of it in setting the rate, assuming a lower cost resource portfolio, so the program over all cost are lower, set the rate a little bit lower reflective of that but don't set it at $2.7 million because you won't have funds to dedicate to local investment fuchlt set the rate at the reflective of the lower c