now do you agree we me if we are virginia follow-on force, a counterterrorism force strategically locatesed in afghanistan, air bases with american air power and special forces units, that's the end of the taliban's dreams of of taking over afghanistan? >> i do believe that, sir. >> and that is part of the strategic partnership agreement, correct? >> it hopefully will be. >> the insurance policy for this nation that never again will the afghanistan go into terrorist hands. you agree? >> i agree with that, sir. >> and pakistan needs to quit betting on the taliban because they are losers? >> it will stabilize afghanistan, which is good for pakistan. >> tell me how the people of afghanistan view the taliban as a whole? do they miss them? >> there is no love lost there, sir. >> they hate them. don't they? >> they considered that period what they called the darkness. >> what is the feeling on the ground in afghanistan of the 85% of the people who want to live free of the taliban about what we play or may not do? how do they feel right now? >> i think they, they're deeply concerned that we may no