case and this is what has led to all sorts of alternative theories about lockerbie although of course the lives instead point to the fact that on the ground he in a loving female were actually responsible so even knows how to play by these these rules they know how to play the game and it's transparency that's lacking in the u.k. p.r. information appears in the media but people have no idea who put it there and the only way one can be really sure about all the information that will be bombarded with on a daily basis is where does it come from and is that person partial or impartial and in that way we get a much clearer idea of what it is that we're being told although there is a new body in the u.k. designed to regulate the p.r. industry declaring clients is still voluntary london's soho is the heart of the p.r. industry in the capital where images of burnished and the unpalatable becomes palatable to london's top p.r. firms are known to be working under closer to some of the world's most unpopular regimes but their expertise could be being used to shape the future political landscape

>> reporter: i asked him whether he ordered the lockerbie bombing which killed more than 200 americans more than decades ago. as his former justice minister is not claiming. gadhafi would not give a direct answer. >> translator: this is a door to a conversation. we are finished. i am not prepared to walk between graves. >> reporter: but desite lockerbie gadhafi was brought in from the cold several years ago after giving up his weapons of mass destruction. the united states and other countries lifted sanctions and started doing business with gadhafi again. do you feel betrayed by the united states? how do you account for how they are towards you now today? >> translator: of course, it's a betrayal. a big betrayals and there's no manners, it's silliness, beyond silliness that the world can base their decisions on media reports. is it possible that the world's decisions are based on these report, political decisions? they should be looking for the truth of what is happening on the ground in libya. then make their decisions. >> reporter: we asked him what he thought of president obama. >>

he was accused of masterminding the lockerbie bombing and in fact helped secure the release of the lockerbie bomber. more on that to come. congress has gotten a briefing from the obama administration about the situation in libya, but they're not satisfied, lawmakers said they heard nothing new specifically. they were listening to hear an exit strategy and say they haven't heard that yet. veronica? >> nbc's tracie potts live for us in washington, thank you. >>> pressure is mounting on japan to expand the evacuation zone around its damaged nuclear power plant amid concerns about radiation seeping from the facility. the u.n.'s nuclear agency says radiation in one village 25 miles from the complex is twice the suggested threshold for evacuation. anyone within a 12-mile zone has already been told to leave. meanwhile, the country's emperor and empress made a rare public appearance wednesday trying to comfort the victims of the disaster. >>> now there is new disturbing evidence regarding radiation from japan drifting to the united states. tests of milk samples in spokane, washington, indicate the p

government, may consider prosecuting qadhafi for ordering the lockerbie bombing.e says that the administration could seek justice. victims have been asking the obama administration to reopen that investigation. ex official that is have recently left the libyan government say he personally oraled thad bombing. also, the united nations has suspended libya from its human rights council. the first time that's err been done, citing gross and systematic human rights violations. that is not permanent, but libya would need to be restored to full status. lynn. >> tracie, thanks so much. >>> the senate is expected to approve a temporarily funding bill later today that will prevent a government shutdown this friday. the measure which also cuts spending by $4 billion passed the house yesterday on a bipartisan vote of 335-91. president obama is expected to sign the two-week extension into law, but democrats still remain steadfastly opposed to a longer republican plan which would cut more than $60 billion through september. now here's a look at some other stories making news ea

citizens he blew up his intelligence agency did a terrorist bomb very similar to the lockerbie bombing the u.k. was called u.t.a. flight seventy two and it blew up of an asia with the loss of everyone on board so i would argue that there's an element of revenge by strong of intervention now more recently gadhafi is hurt french commercial interests all just blow up that he find french towel have a billion dollars he also bought russian fighter planes instead of french or felt it is useful but now coalition bombs are reported to be killing libyan civilians oppression really the worst is resorting to heavy bombing and civilian casualties are concerned. that could increase regional hatred towards the west after. there will be quite. a resistance from. critics say the western military alliance is simply taking. in what's an internal civil war where rebel seek to overthrow an internationally recognized government western forces should be prosecuted not just for civilians but also for killing your home school and i don't know why. people find it. so. i mean. as nato chiefs arrive to plan the

take him to to face trial for war crimes there is still a lot of resentment regarding the lockerbie bombing in the u.k. and also i don't think there is much sympathy to be honest for someone who defects when everything goes wrong let's focus back here on libya now the coalition is considering not only arming but also training the rebels how long do you think it might take them to organize the opposition forces as you see it well we're talking about a country libya which has no history of political dissent there's of course no freedom of association of course no freedom of speech it's also a country where there is no military service which means that this is a nation where men haven't been trained to use weapons to carry out guns and as we've seen from many reports coming out of libya the rebels or the opposition forces are made up of young men very well educated who are for the vast majority carry guns for the very first time and it will be very difficult indeed to help them to coordinate their action and to organize their actions so they are in a very difficult position and that's why they

same guys we blame today for having american blood on his hands not to mention he was ok with the lockerbie bomber being released back in two thousand and nine but what like he didn't have blood on his hands two years ago so became goes from being a pact with a dictator to hating on him why was we go through this time and time again we need to either start choosing friends better. or since we're obviously really bad about stopping the world's arms dealer because we always end of selling them to our future enemy that we end up spending money and lives on fighting against the back to mccain individually ladies and gentlemen this is just the latest of ocracy coming out of this former presidential candidate and ask for his contradictory approach to libya and gadhafi john mccain is tonight's tool time winner. and we all knew the day was coming and york times has been talking about it creating a paywall for its online viewers for a while now but it's finally going to become a reality currently the subscription plan is monthly and it will range anywhere between fifteen and thirty five dollars depe

authorities are saying is that he's not going to be immune from prosecution for his role in the lockerbie bombing but what do you think the chances are that will actually allow him to be prosecuted considering it's the british government that allowed the lockerbie bomber to go considering the reports that b.p. was lobbying at the british government to let him go in order so they can get more oil contracts in libya. well i think if there's one thing history is to with us from the a.n.c. to the taliban is that the is the friend is a terrorist yes could be will be defined as a statesman tomorrow so really i wouldn't be surprised if he's given a place in the new government you have the new iraq has parties involved in it which the invasion would defined by the united states as terrorist groups you know this is this happens all the time so they're making a big song and dance about it will be interesting to see what happens in that regard now of course also i mean if he's if he's if he's if he's eligible to be charged with crimes surely the people that they have on this on this council that the

gov a maniac responsible for the lockerbie massacre.d attempt reprisals against americans, shooting of americans, and hostage taking and all the rest. but this crisis, john, gaddafi is approaching his end right now, and in my view lot of people are pushing for american intervention. if anybody's going to go into stop a massacre going on or start using poison gas, it ought to be a nato operation and the italians and others ought to go in first for this reason, this used to be an italian province. we have no visit al person interests there. put together by the italians, you know. the eastern part of it that's broken way, italians captured in 1912. ram el left in 1943. this is a problem for the international community. if somebody has to move, we should help. but we should not take the lead. >> that's what he said. >> well, but i do agree with folks -- that it was a very, very weak statement. weaker than anybody else's delivered the europeans, for example. >> i think the president is handling it totally just right. first of all, there are

guest: we'll know the history of lockerbie and those bombings in 1986. we made up with gaddafi at a certain point. the west decided it was in this strategic interest of the united states to patch things up with him. and that was important -- there was an important step. you can disagree or agree with that. that is complicating the response early on about -- to what was happening in libya. host: our guests have been megan scully, a reporter "national journal with, -- a reporter with andtional journal," missy ryan from reuters. we'll talk about libya for the rest of the hour. >> tonight, a female bloggers discuss civil unrest in their countries. you'll hear perspectives from women grappling with religious freedom. >> iran is really bad. but this is one side of the coin. the other side is saudi arabia. we live in a dark area. our stories have never been heard. we are strong in the terms o f oil. islam is the homeland. >> what's the summit tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> you have a chance to catch up on the dates you have missed in the first few m

spy chief has long been suspected of being involved in the 1988 bombing of pan am flight 103 over lockerbie, scotland that killed more than 250 people. the regime's opponents also blame him for numerous assassinations of libyan dissidents in exile. british officials said kusa is now being debriefed. and they insisted he has not received immunity from any potential british or international charges. britain's foreign secretary william hague said kusa's defection has put increased pressure on the libyan leader. >> his resignation shows that qaddafi's regime, which has already seen significant defections to the opposition, is fragmented, under pressure and crumbling from within. qaddafi must be asking himself, "who will be the next to abandon him?" >> brown: that was the official response in washington today, as well as defense secretary robert gates called kusa's defection an encouraging sign. gates and admiral mike mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff appeared before congress to discuss the u.s. involvement in libya. one new development: reports quoting u.s. officials that cia teams

we must remember that some people have been in accusing him of involvement with the lockerbie bombing, for instance. he was the head of intelligence for colonel gaddafi. that is not a neutral post. nevertheless, it means that they're going to be people are around colonel gaddafi that will be thinking now about their future is very carefully. but at the same time, this is really a one horse government. it is all about colonel gaddafi and those people who are loyal to him. my guess is that they feel that their futures are entirely bound up with him. >> rebels in libya are retreating in the face of the military advance by government forces. hundreds of opposition fighters had fled. they have already abandoned several other coastal towns in the past 24 hours. we have a report from along the coast. >> beginners lessons in using a rocket-propelled grenade. there is more guess work here than expertise. the rebels want more weapons than the international community is now suggesting that they might get them. what is really missing here is training and leadership. >> these are oil fields. if we

lockerbie bombing, one example there. just yesterday, the u.s. counterterrorism adviser, john brennan, warned we could see libyan-based attacks even here in the u.s. how valid is that? >> well, clearly, everyone tries to do contingency planning and worst-case scenario. gadhafi has been warned in the past. the lockerbie attack on the pan am jet. people are worried about it. he has threatened it. the question really is, how is gadhafi going to step down, if he will? the u.s. and the world hasn't really left him a way out because they already referred him to the war crimes tribunal. so, that puts his back against a wall. >> and how much does what we are seeing take place in libya right now complicate the rest of the region? yemen and bahrain, there's fighting going there. the u.s. is very focused on what happens eventually in saudi arabia. how does this complicate the situation? >> it's an added layer of difficulty. you've seen what happened in yemen, a bloody slaughter in the capital yesterday. in bahrain, apparently there was going to be negotiati

found out of call here and the number plates on that did not relate to that particular vehicle the lockerbie in time but with so we decided that what we would do we would go into the boat through the rear seats who were in turn you would see that it was packed with exposure. both one hundred eighty pounds of explosives before to morrow's moving forward from exposure if not the initiator we had no idea how long the water on the cloth what we just discarded through would to take the explosive away from the bomb . by reporting by a destroyed pound bags or exploded or put them on the other saw the road towards the bomb went off with us to go through. the building had to be evacuated and no inflation is crushed or the windows portion was working what was the significance of this bomb these were the first car bombs used in. two bombs did explode. the irish war was now on the streets of london. marion spent the next decade in prison but over the next twenty five years the ira would explode thousands of car bombs. just one bomb could destroy a small town or blast the heart of a key financial center

and the number plates on the car did not relate to that particular vehicle the lockerbie in time but with so we decided that what we would do we would go into the booth through the rear seats were in theory and you would see that it was packed with exposure of. those one hundred eighty pounds of exposure of the pope who was moving forward from exposure but not the initiator we had no idea how long it was there on the cloth what we just decided to do was to take the explosive away from the bomb on the part we're putting barges forward pound bags or explode you have put them on the other saw the roads or the bomb went off with us to go through. the building had to be of are very good or know of faces. all the windows watching those were what was the significance of this bomb these were the first called bomb used in the. two bombs did explode. the irish war was now on the streets of london. marion spent the next decade in prison but over the next twenty five years the ira would explode thousands of car bombs. just one bomb could destroy a small town or blast the heart of a key financial

bernstein's late husband, michael, was one of 270 people killed in the bombing of pan am 103 over lockerbie, scotland. a libyan intelligence officer, abdel bassette al megrahi, was convicted in the attack, and u.s. announced claims that gadhafi himself ordered the bombing. that is something that frank anderson, who oversaw the agency's investigation, never doubted. >> there is no question in my mind that moammar gadhafi authorized the bombing of pan am 103. >> reporter: which is why bernstein says she is appalled by the eight-year effort by the west to make peace with libya, a policy driven by gadhafi's 2003 pledge to give up nuclear and chemical weapons. economic sanctions against libya were lifted in 2004. that led to new business opportunities in the oil-rich country, and some government officials later benefited. david welch was the senior u.s. diplomat working to restore relations with libya, then went to work for construction giant bechtel. among his duties, developing business in libya. mark allen was a top british spy master dealing with gadhafi and later became a consultant to bp o

>> and we gave -- there are state gave reparations to libya for what took place for that lockerbie bomband we went and bombed them. >> wait. wait. wait. one at a time. >> we embrace qaddafi when he gave up his nuclear weapons. >> in 2003. >> and that was an important thing to do. yes, he is a dictator. but none of us here knows whether we are in a civil war or not. i tell you one thing it looks like a civil war than just a revolution. and yet we are treating it as if we know who the good guys and the bad guys are and we are on the side of the good guys. >> always a way to make a call but you have to have the facts on the table. and it was not clear here what we were doing, what our outcome needed to be and what was going to happen next and that is the biggest problem with where we are. >> i hate to say it but it sounds like bush going into iraq when you say that. some lady hawks to t e he-coverry. >> yesterday's man session is today's he-coverry as men are gaining jobs faster than women. according to the bureau of labor statistics of the 1.3 million jobs created in the last year, 90% we

because the united states is not is only just recently reengage gadhafi is libya out if you go back to lockerbie and what not so united states was kind of the last in line and we had the europeans that were very much up in front i mean we've all seen the pictures of european leaders a red face now that they had their pictures taken with this man which happens a lot to politicians these days but the europeans themselves have been extremely divided we have the germans on one side i'll talk about the russian position a little bit later in the program and then you have can you cite france result because the the president doesn't even have friends as they have diplomatic relations now with libya so i mean it's a huge mess mr gadhafi must be really lapping up his sleeve. historically historically. because if you wanted it under because if you had had the close relation with europe the bulk of the libyan oil goes to europe and you pointed out historically that initially between libya and united states has been rather hostile you listen i forget back in eighty six of the kind of american president reaga

the weapons left in his armory an overseas terror he's faced repeated accusations that he ordered lockerbie bombing that killed two hundred seventy mostly westerners experts say some countries are particularly in the firing line three leading countries of the offensive operation that means for you in the united states of course the only option he has really is to use terror so i think the don't release today it's a clear cut in prison danger today in the coming days maybe in the coming weeks but you backing for anti gadhafi rebels could backfire further rebel leaders include the libyan islamic fighting group and associates of al qaida and the casualties mounting every day from allied bombing make fertile recruiting ground and she western forces there are agents of ok looking now in v.b. i think that not. chaos at all i am sure. you muslims protest against nato bombing of libya the organizer says people should prepare for the worst but there's certainly there's a very strong likelihood. that the ability to. track everybody. the invasion of iraq lived through a surge in terror attacks in the

tactics that we've been and we're hearing that he might go so far as to duplicate something like the lockerbie incident it's not clear on the ground just how far back his forces have been pushed and just how far back his military might has been diminished and this is why people here are suspecting that they could. still the counter attacks by his forces in fact we've hearing by some of the residents in some of these towns that the rebel fighters have reclaimed that they are still very much afraid that they could be renewed fighting they also say that they don't trust these rebel fighters that much or as you say the rebels are making headway here that could be harder. and we know the coalition has been enforcing a no fly zone in libya for over a week now with the use of strike sort of tomahawk missiles that are with nato and next to work take control of the mission is this move winning support among libyans there on the ground. one amongst the libyans who support the death it certainly is not winning support they would much rather the international community remain out of what they say is their

weapons left in his armory than overseas terror he's faced repeated accusations that he ordered lockerbie bombing that killed two hundred seventy mostly westerners experts say some countries are particularly in the firing line tree leading countries of the offensive and that means from. the united states of course the only option yes really. so i think. it's a clear cut in prison today in the. coming weeks but e.u. backing for anti could that the rebels could back fire further rebel leaders including the libyan islamic fighting group and associates of al qaida and the casualties mounting every day from allied bombing make fertile recruiting grounds and she western forces are. now in. that. e.u. muslims protest against nato bombing of libya the organizer says people should prepare for the worst let's start really does a very strong like. what we do. track everybody should. i go at the invasion of iraq live in terror attacks in the e.u. almost two hundred people died in the madrid train bombings in two thousand and four while suicide bombers killed fifty two people in london in two thousand