conventional soil, organic soils not only absorb more carbon from the atmosphere, but they sequester it or lockett and longer periods of time so she sees these farming techniques, these natural farming techniques as actually anti-climate change, buffers against climate change, not just to feed people but to actually have a secondary thing. stephanie, how are we doing on time? say what? [indiscernible] i, i have one little thing i want to run by this phenomenal journalist, author. reckon tour -- one little. i lost it now. hang on. thest wanted to note that inquirer, "the philadelphia inquirer" has not been used on mute on these subjects. in "america eats," there's a wonderful report by a fellow named stetson kennedy called -- the kant is the name of obviously the shellfish. mark: kant. name for it is also a people living in key west. mark: people from the bahamas. from key west. rick: very bottom feeding fish. i have someone here in my folder a wonderful account from our own paper of how the fattish american taste for conch of the caribbean once caused havoc, leaving the islander short on a staple.