lockhart road.avid's family lived. >> could not have been a better place for us to be when all of this terrible stuff happened. >> reporter: the awful news raced through two families that night. david's sister julie was getting ready to go to bed when the phone rang. >> i said, "what?" "what are you, what are you talking about?" "what are you saying?" >> reporter: julie went straight to her parents' house. >> mom had all of the pictures of brad and jill i guess that she could gather up and was holdin' them. and just sitting on the floor and just rocking and sayin', "my babies." "my babies." "they've killed my babies." "somebody's killed my babies." >> reporter: david sent his uncles to tell kim's parents, janice and frank renn. >> janice, late at night, the doorbell rings, what can this be, huh? >> well, it can't be good. so i go out and i open the door and i see 'em standing out there and i think my mind just went blank. >> and janice yelled for me to get out there. so i got out there and sam said,

caitlin and scott lockhart have been married for three years. until the first child was born paikin worked as a nurse and well regarded jump in the struggling region after nearly forty years in the mines scott's father jimmy has just taken early retirement. being married to a coal miner you know you get up every morning and there's always that question in your mind is this going to be the last time i want to see you. and then you know when the phone rings and you're like you say it's a monster thing the first reaction is something's happening. i knew beforehand that there's a choice that we may because my dad was a previous coal miner and he got crushed in the mines and he doesn't work anymore because you can't ever want to marry scott i would probably still have been with a coal miner i mean i was i was crazy but you know that's all of there is around here it's either you're a doctor or polar bear i mean there's a fear for him and play like mcdonalds and stuff but you know you can live on that . i pray that the monster i open getting laid off w

i want to bring this former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, joe lockhart and congressional reporter for the "washington post" corrine dimersion. >> the president signed an executive order which said that migrants crossing the border seeking asylum can only do so at specific ports of entry. this judge ruled overnight you can't do that. you can't say that because congress has a law which says you can seek asylum no matter where you cross. >> right. this is in the same family of rulings as the first several rulings regarding the muslim ban, that if the president wants to change immigration law in a fundamental way he has to do it through congress. there are lots of laws about immigration that the president on his own cannot overrule. that's what they said in the first two iterations of the muslim ban, that's what judge tiger has said in california in this case about asylum seekers. >> the president is kind of a closet lawmaker. he wants to be in congress, he does these executive orders so that he can change laws and then generally i'm thinking of the muslim ban and this, a judge has to

we are back with john avlon and carrie lockhart. the acting attorney general was notified that this was about to happen beforehand, he was told of the michael cohen plea deal and he was told this was about to happen, and we know he was told and he didn't stop it. does that mean the fears of matt whitaker interfering with the mueller investigation, are they somewhat delayed this morning? >> i don't think so. there's a few reasons why. first of all that would be consistent with the special counsel's regulations. on one hand it cuts against the president's argue that the special counsel is some rogue entity going off into far corners, because that shows that even with matt whitaker in place with the acting attorney generals office, and the unprecedented way in which he stepped into that position that the special counsel is still going forward with the appropriate procedures. the justice department has not been transparent with what whitaker's role is, and so i don't think it's 100% clear whether or not the special counsel is still goin

lockhart and rick santorum, political commentators for cnn. jeffrey toobin, i want to start with you. this morning already the president weighed in on twitter and said yeah i was doing business during the campaign and i lightly looked at doing a building somewhere in russia. i call this a few good men defense, you are damn right i did, i was doing this. did he break a law? >> certainly not by conducting his real estate business. it is not illegal now or then, and the question is was he candidate with the other candidates during this period about what he was doing and how does that relate to the other parts of the investigation where there might be illegal activity. certainly the developments itself was not illegal. what he keeps saying is that everybody knew i was negotiating in moscow during the first half of 2016, obviously untrue. we all know what he did and didn't say, and he did not say he was negotiating with russia. that's important because this was the period when he was being so mysteriously kind to putin. why did they change the amer

matt lewis, cnn political commentator and senior columnist at the "daily beast" and joe lockhart, commentator and former white house press secretary for president clinton. thank you gentlemen for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> so i want to ask you, joe, first to you, is now the time for a grand bipartisan bargain on immigration and border security? we hear all this talk about it. is now the time for action? >> well, right now is as good a time as any. we have been working at this since the george w. bush administration. and frankly, i think the votes are there, but the minority of very conservative republicans have stopped it. so if president trump wants some flexibility on immigration policy, he's going to have to show some flexibility. the ingredients are there. it just takes some political will. >> so show some flexibility. what do you mean by that. >> well, i think in return for border security, he's going to have to show some flexibility on dreamers and allowing the process of people who are here to get a pathway towards citizenship. that's always been the deal. we h

back now with joe lockhart, mark short is here, we're joined by rachel bait. interesting to me in the last week the president has admitted it was a mistake not to go to arlington national cemetery on veterans day and now making it clear he's considering going to a war zone. it seems that he is addressing what he believes to be a genuine problem now which he is not perceived to be showing empathy or concern for u.s. troops. >> right. try to think of the last time you have heard president donald trump say i'm sorry or walk something back. you haven't. he doesn't do that. for him to come out on fox news on sunday to say, look, i made a mistake when i decided not to visit fallen soldiers at arlington national cemetery on veterans day, that shows remo e remorse. we've always seen presidents use, for example, thanksgiving day to show up and surprise troops, george w. bush did this with iraq right after the invasion in 2003. >> clinton did it in kosovo. >> exactly. he has avoided doing this in part because of security fears, you can't blame him. jim mattis was the ta

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nation in europe, for the likes of joe scarborough to repeatedly invoke the hitler references or joe lockhartking about authoritarian regimes and dictatorships. they are going down a slippery slope. >> these are the networks that would say we are facts first. we are the people that bring you the real news. not like fox. fox is state-run media. the reality is, that they don't deal in facts. they don't deal in trying to report what is broward county doing? who is brenda snipes and what is her record. trish: those are questions we should be asking. let me show you speaking of crazy mainstream media times. let me show you this clip of one of those folks. >> in the event he does win and he does lose, which would be a happy event. it would be funning what he would say. he would say i'm not leaving. call the military. we have to look at this man. he would do that. he would say no, no, no. i'm still here. edge if they carried him out he would turn top the american people and say i'm still your president. trish: i kind of thought he was joke. but he wasn't. >> there were certain people who thought bar

to your question, what's going on here is absolutely the president -- i know joe lockhart. president is fear mongering and scaring folks into thinking our election system is broken. the reality is we want every vote to be counted. trish: when you talked about collusion, before you knew it. >> there is an investigation going on. trish: russia stole the election i do believe that was a common view. >> ten independent intelligence agencies said russia meddles in that election. so there is evidence there. trish: there is also evidence brenda snipes had a history before the election. >> we know of 22 non-citizen votes were made provisionally. that's the "miami herald" saying that. at the end of the day we need all legal votes to count. the democrats don't want all legal votes to count. >> we want every vote to be counted and every legal vote to be counsel. now when we are saying we may not be able to count every vote by the deadline, you guys and scott and trump want to say let's go back to the way it was because that unless their favor. trish: why does a judge have a rule to al

for more on this let me bring in former clinton white house press secretary, joe lockhart.ebated this past week in washington about whether this was a wave or not. i can see democrats made significant gains in the house as they were expected to. i still think trump had a pretty good night. if democrats did something right to win those house seats and flip a few governor seats, what was it? what was the good message for democrats? >> i think it's a couple things. >> okay. >> the first is, they department get caught up in all of the things that we spend a lot of time talking about. look at the ad spend. that's where the rubber meets the road. 54% of the ads were on health care. very few campaigns were running ads on the mueller or on russia and all of that. so -- and the corollary to that is they focused on pocketbook issues. health care. pre-existing conditions. that's why you saw republicans scrambling at the end to say, we voted against it, now we're for it. we were for it before, we're against it. >> right. >> confusing it. and i think if you look at the numbers, the most

joining us now, former press secretary, joel lockhart, and cnn senior political analyst, john avalon. let's start with the staff upheaval, which is not unusual after a mid-term election or any election. what is unusual to me is the first lady and her office thought they had to put out a press release to get the message out. there are different ways. you can shout across the hall. >> isn't this reserved for pillow talk at night? isn't that what nancy reagan or somebody else generally relied on? >> this is very different. john, it's not just you. it's different for the first lady to go out after somebody with a press release. that was through using direct and indirect means, including maybe pillow talk. this is surreal. it's a stepping up of the overall atmosphere that this is just one giant reality show, and the fact that the first lady is going after the deepputy nation security adviser, as the west wing turn continues. >> at the stomach churns. this deputy national security adviser has fought endured herself to a lot of people. she seemed to have crossed john kelly. she was john bolt

president, and cnn political correspondent, david drucker, and former white house secretary, joe lockhart. are we hearing anymore from the white house on this reporting overnight that this plan remain in mexico could be in the works? >> no, no word from the white house yet on this, but the dhs spokesperson did put out a statement telling the washington post they thought it was premature for them to report on the policy because it was not being implemented this week, and we know it's a greater frustration of president trump's, an asylum has been something sensitive for him and something he focused on. that really ties into everything we are talking about here, including the fight with the chief justice, john roberts, which is after president trump was telling reporters that he wanted to file a complaint with the ninth circuit court because of a ruling they had on the administration's changes to asylum. this is the president's greater frustration with these judges because he wants to be able to change the asylum laws and he is frustrated with the border crossings, and this stems to much of

panel, florida political reporter for politico and former clinton white house press secretary joe lockhart. great to see all of you. i'll start with you, mark. you are in florida. you have covered the chaos there before. is this standard operating procedure? this just a recount, as is mandated by law, or is it all extremely messy and chaotic? >> because we have dysfunction in florida, it's kind of standard operating procedure. we've seen this before in broward. it is different before in margin and the presidential race. you have no standard for recounting ballots. after the 2000 race, standards were put in and those are being obeyed here. congressman deutch did not really want to comment on supervisor brenda snipes in broward county. we have a story in politico.com that says if it's governor scott who decides to do it or governor-elect desantis, her days are numbered. she'll more than likely be suspended by office and the florida senate will probably remove her. she's not only lost support from republicans -- some joke that maybe it's good to keep her in, botching elections in the biggest

political correspondent and cnn political analyst, jonathan martin, josh green, anna navaro and joe lockhart. very important titles to all of you. thank you all for being here with us today. this is a big deal today. we don't know what's going to happen. today is not a day about the polls that we have seen until now. today is a day to go out and vote. what we do know is that this election is very much about the president and will tell us a lot, josh, about what the country thinks of this president and what he has done with his office in the last two years. >> i think that's exactly right. trump's former chief strategist steve bannon has a line. he says this is trump's first re-election. it isn't really, but it kind of is. he wants the race to be all about him. democrat and republican polls show that the race is all about him. this is a referendum on donald trump. the outcome will tell us a lot about how the country feels about the first three years of his presidency. >> i think the larger question, not just trump, but trumpism. by that i mean obviously his conduct in office or his rhetoric,

. >> joining us now former clinton white house press secretary joe lockhart, "washington post" opinion columnist catherine ram pell and jeffrey toobin. >> why does someone who has a plea a agreement, whose only way is to tell the truth or not lie, why does that people lie? >> because they are a, stupid, b, arrogant, c, shopping for a pardon so they don't have to worry about what the judge is going to sentence them. all of those are possibilities. it is very unusual for someone who has a plea agreement to make the prosecutor so angry that they tear it up and say, you are getting -- you are not getting any benefit from your cooperation, you're going to jail for a long time. and just in the immediate after math of this, it is likely that paul manafort is going to get a very long sentence as a result of this. >> i'm sorry just to stick with jeffrey for a second, are we overthinking this, if he's going to be pardoned he's going to be pardoned and won't serve that long jail sentence. >> let's see if he's pardoned. donald trump pardons people because it's in his interest to pardon people. >>

she's here, and joe lockhart is a cnn commentator who was press secretary for bill clinton.lice, let's start in orange county first. is that former republican stronghold gone forever? >> well, look at that map, kate, and it's pretty safe to say there was definitely a blue wave in orange county. and you know, to be honest, look, democrats can claim a huge victory. that's the birthplace of modern conservative movement and reagan conservatives. they took it over, but the reality is this has been in the works for quite some time. there's been a loss of gop fund-raising, and the grassroots has really dwindled. and certainly, president trump really helped expedeiate the process of voting in democrats in an area. if you look at the big picture, what we saw from the election, the democratic party has shifted. it's more urban, latino, and coastal. that hurts the democrats in places like missouri, but as we see, it's very helpful in a state like california. specifically there in orange county. >> if this is a wake-up call for republicans, what message does it send for democrats if the

jill colvin, i did see joe lockhart, former clinton era press secretary say tonight, he was complimentingn their restraint, because they have not redone their coverage, they're not leading all hours with their own correspondent, jim acosta, they're staying on the story, which is the firing of sessions and the result of the midterms, just in case, just in case this is a giant distraction. >> yeah, when that story broke, i think anderson cooper was just about to start, and i know a lot of us tuned in to see what cnn's response would be and they waited until well into the show to with jim acosta. we know this is an administration that has long had a very tense relationship with the press, even during the campaign, the president, then candidate, was revoking reporters' press credentials, banning numerous outlets from "the washington post," to politico, from covering his events. but i think what you're seeing here is also an acknowledgement that the president often uses these fights that he picks with the media to distract from certain story lines that he doesn't want being covered and what is

commentator scott jennings, former clinton white house press secretary and cnn political commentator joe lockhart. i want to start with arizona because this is a race we did not know one week ago. one week ago martha mcsally was leading on election night. this stings a little bit more republicans. i know a lot of republicans got the candidate they wanted in martha mcsally, she ran very close to president trump and this is a state that matters a great deal for the future of both parties. >> it does sting. going into election say republicans felt pretty good about arizona, better than they did about nevada. to lose this one it hurts. mcsally is probably going to wind occupy in the senate anyway because kyle is going to resign and mcsally may wind up being the state's senior senator if she gets there before kyrsten sinema is sworn in. that would put mcsally back on the ballot in a couple years. republicans have accepted the outcome and i think that stands in stark contrast to what's happening in georgia and florida where democrats refuse to accept the outcome. >> martha mcsally has accepted the outc

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