yeah, there is some lodgisting -- logistics stuff, and a lot of laughs, you didn't foresee, conversations that you laugh that you stepped into. those are times that really are, are great opportunities for growth. and i kind of love those challenges. those are my favorite parts of my own personal story. >> do you think we will see, obviously a coach on the spurs in the nba, right now, she actually coached the team. >> becky hammond. >> is this something we will see more, five, ten years, more of this in the nfl and professional leagues? >> of course you are. it takes one person to step forward, not any type of difference, not just male, female. you have seen it a lot in terms of breaking racial boundaries in this country. at one time, you know it was unheard of to have a head coach who was african-american. and now look where we are now. today with the league. but it takes those special people to break through and kind of take the initial hits. you know, i look at it as like, you know, a lead blocker in football. the fullback takes the hits. but they open the hole for somebody else to go a