the optimal environment, the could he loek we yal expression, if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy so there are some situations in which children are being loved and are thriving in homes that are nontraditional homes. >> on this theme of mama being happy, mama being safe. 50 to 60% of women who are receiving public aid have experienced physical abuse by an intimate partner at some point as compared to 22% of the general population. the idea that we should tell women to marry abusive partners is troubling. >> more than troubling, it's dangerous. this new shriver report is extraordinarily rich and full of so much information and data about all of this stuff, it did a poll, right, of a whole bunch of different people. one of the subsets was low income single mothers. and among those who were divorced, 19% regretted their divorces, right? the vast majority of those who were divorced thought that that was a good thing for them and their families. what they regretted were things like marrying too young, having their children too young, interrupting their education. presumably these wome