congresswoman lofgren, jack smith got donald trump's former chief mark meadows to testify.refused to testify before your january 6th committee. doj obviously has more heft, they can put people in jail. meadows' lawyer said, quote, mr. meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal object gas station to do so, unquote. what was your reaction when you heard meadows testified before the grand jury when he wouldn't do it for the select committee? >> first, he should have talked to us, but you know mark's in a position to know almost everything. and he gave us before he stopped talking a lot of, you know, records that were very damning. and -- but he has more to say. he was burning things up, he was there when the ex-president was plotting with others. he went to georgia to help overturn the election. i mean really more than anyone else he knows everything. and if he is telling the truth, then i think that would be a very significant turn of events in that investigation. >> if he's telling the truth, you said. >> well, did i say it that way? if he is

joining us now is california democratic congresswoman sow zoe lofgren.to get your response to what's happening on the impeachment front. you have republican colleagues starting to try to impeach president biden, while there's also this separate effort to expunge both of former president trump's impeachments. what do you make of all of this? it's a tremendous waste of time. lauren boebert's impeachment resolution is nonsense. the constitution says you can impeach a president for treason, bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors. nothing is even alleged in her resolution that would meet that saturday. and the other two resolutions to expunge the impeachments, i don't even know if you can do that, but it's ridiculous. you know, i was one of the managers for the first impeachment. it's worth noting that more than -- we had 52 votes to convict, 53 on the second charge. you need two-thirds, but certainly a majority of the senate thought that he was guilty and voted to convict, and as to the second impeachment trial, again, we didn't get two-thirds, but 57% of

lofgren or me or anybody pulling a rabbit out of the hat. we had really good facts.strong enough to come forward. we put her on really kind of abruptly after hearing about some of the more significant things that she said. and after she testified, we did a lot of work to corroborate that. and largely did corroborate that. her most significant testimony was about the president's very strong desire to go to the capitol and his anger at being told that he could not. while we couldn't corroborate that resulted in physical struggle, we corroborated from everyone in the vehicle and otherwise that the president had that strong desire. as i said before, that is a really, really important fact that but for cassidy hutchinson and other witnesses, we wouldn't have gotten. so i think there was a turning point. and also a huge juxtaposition of the old white guys not coming forward and a very strong young woman coming forward, i think that resonated a lot and it should. her bravery and her relative youth compared to the arguable cowardice of mark meadows and others mattered. so no

congresswoman so lofgren breaks it down with. me i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ so, in less than 48 hours donald trump will be arraigned in federal court in miami. he's expecting to surrender himself to authorities. still likely be arrested, booked, taken into custody before he appears before a judge. now trump says that he'll plead not guilty to charges connected to his handling of classified documents. and of course as you may know, this is his 2nd indictment in 3 months. despite that growing legal peril that he finds himself and during an interview with political last night, trump vowed to continue campaigning for president even if he were convicted. now that's not entirely shocking to be honest. trump never admitted defeat after losing the 2020 election, he's not going to tap out of the 2024 race when it's just getting started. there's more to this move then his inability to back down. it's not about politics, trump's 3rd white house bid has a bigger strategy at its core. as axios explains, for donald trump 202

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lofgren. ms. lofgren: i could go point by point and prove that the resolution is false, but time is short. i'll say adam tells the truth. he told the truth when we were managers on the first impeachment that resulted in a bipartisan vote for conviction. he told the truth when we served on the january 6 committee and found that the ex-president was the leader of a plot to overturn the constitution and the electoral vote. why is this before us today? the truth hurts, doesn't it? i think it's before us today because the ex-president has recently been charged with dozens of felonies. i am a former chair of the ethics committee. this is a -- this resolution is a departure from what has been the norm in the congress in terms of censure. not only does this resolution disgrace the maga republicans who advanced it, but it also disgraces this institution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the the gentlewoman from florida is recognized. mrs. luna: i yield two minutes to the gentlewo

seemingly inching closer to charges is where we begin the hour with democratic congresswoman zoe lofgrenman, a lot what was we know exists as evidence of the fake electors scheme and the plot out in the states, we know from your investigative work. and the committee did such a meticulous job of putting -- of illustrate organize showing through evidence that trump sat atop that chain of command with his lieutenant, eastman, under it, making farcical legal arguments that even eastman seems to admit were untrue. and rudy giuliani sort of captaining the statewide teams. tell me what you think his criminal exposure is on the state plots to overturn individual defeats of his. >> i'm not an expert on georgia's rico statutes, but clearly he was at the center -- he being the ex-president -- of a wide-ranging conspiracy to overturn the election. and some of those actions were connected to georgia. we've all heard his phone call with the secretary of state where he tells him to find the votes he didn't have so he could win the state. certainly he knew that the election was not fraudulent. he'd been

here's zoe lofgren asking durham an eyebrow raising question about traveling to italy with bill barr. >> i thought it was down a rabbit's hole, but you and attorney general barr went to italy to take a look at some allegation about foreign service, and italian officials gave you evidence that they said linked donald trump to certain financial crimes. did the attorney general ask you to investigate that matter that the italians referred to you? and if so, did you take any investigative steps, and did you file charges? and if not, did you file a declaration memo for decision not to charge in this case? >> the question's outside the scope of what i think i'm authorized to talk about. it's not part of the report. i can tell you this, investigative steps were taken. grand jury subpoenas were issued, and it came to nothing. >> a dramatic collision of facts and republican disinformation at a hearing today about mr. durham's probe into the russia investigation. it's where we begin with some of our favorite reporters and friends. "the new york times" washington correspondent charlie savidge is

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. >> let's discuss this and more now with california congresswoman, zoe lofgren.taken part in all four modern impeachments dating back to nixon. she was a member of the house of the january 6th committee, so you have so much perspective you can offer to this conversation, congresswoman. let's begin with the indictment in happened against donald trump in the classified documents case. what do you feel is the most concerning when it comes to national security based on the evidence laid out in the allegations in this indictment? >> well, that he mishandled these documents so severely. it's not cited in the indictment, but there were documents so secret that some of the fbi agents couldn't look at them because they didn't have a high enough clearance and that they were left unguarded in public spaces. we know that spies have infiltrated mar-a-lago and so you know, that's a concern. it's very reckless. it's just terrible. he conspired to really obstruct the fbi from completing their search warrant and, you know, the whole thing is a mess. you know, we will have it all

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the gentleman yields back to miss lofgren. time has expired. >> did our government text message -- >> was that intelligence important enough for director brennan too brief the viteae of the united states, vice president and the director of the f.b.i. was that intelligence put into a memorandum, a referral memorandum? >> yes. >> was it given to director comey and agent strzok? >> that's who it was addressed to. >> did director comey share that memorandum with the fisa court, director comey? >> i'm not aware of that if he did. >> did he share it with the lawyers preparing the fisa application? >> not to my knowledge. >> did he share it with the agents on the caseworking the crossfire hurricane case? >> no. >> didn't share with the agents on the case. can you tell the committee what happened when you took that referral memo agent and shared it with special agent number one? >> we interviewed the first supervisor of the crossfire investigation, the operational person. we showed him the intelligence information. he indicated he had

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lofgren. ms. lofgren: i could go point by point and prove that the resolution is false, but time is short. i'll say adam tells the truth. he told the truth when we were managers on the first impeachment that resulted in a bipartisan vote for conviction. he told the truth when we served on the january 6 committee and found that the ex-president was the leader of a plot to overturn the constitution and the electoral vote. why is this before us today? the truth hurts, doesn't it? i think it's before us today because the ex-president has recently been charged with dozens of felonies. i am a former chair of the ethics committee. this is a -- this resolution is a departure from what has been the norm in the congress in terms of censure. not only does this resolution disgrace the maga republicans who advanced it, but it also disgraces this institution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the the gentlewoman from florida is recognized. mrs. luna: i yield two minutes to the gentlewo

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and the unhinged and dangerous gop effort to protect trump, congresswoman so lofgren breaks it down witht started. less than 48 hours donald trump would be arraigned in federal court on miami, he is expected to surrender himself to authorities, you'll likely be arrested, both taken into custody before hemiami. he'll likely be arrested, booked, and taken into custody. of course, as you may know, this is his second indictment in just three months. despite that growing legal peril he finds himself in, during an interview with "politico" last

but it was a sense until the very end -- i mean, i remember asking congresswoman zoe lofgren until like last 12 hours that the committee existed about secret service response to their efforts to get all their messages, and it's clear that in the end they got some emails where they couldn't get text messages, but they were never able to fully pierce the inner conversations that agents were having amongst themselves. it feels significant that this reporting suggests a half a dozen agents have been before the grand jury. that seems like a significant difference between how far congress was able to get and how far jack smith may now be. >> well, of course. i mean, once you get somebody in a subpoena, grand jury testimony, they're under incredible penalty and pain to remember it accurately, and to tell you the full story. and i have to say, you know, we all should keep in mind the dueling heart of a secret service agent. they have historically believed that they keep the confidences of their president so that they can keep that president close and safe. that if they start blabbing about what

. >> it's not even his, time it's miss lofgren's. time the gentleman yields back to miss lot, from the time's expired. mr. durham, in the summer 2016, did our government receive intelligence that suggested secretary clinton had approved a plan to tie president trump to russia? >> yes. >> was that intelligence important enough for director brennan to go brief the president of the united states, the vice president, states attorney general united states, and the director of the fbi? >> yes. >> and was an intelligence put into a memorandum? or for all memorandum? >> was that then given to director comey and agent struck? >> yes, it was addressed, yes. >> the director comey share that memorandum with the court? >> i'm sorry. >> did he share that memorandum with the court? did director comey do that? >> i'm not aware that if he did. >> did he share it with the lawyers preparing the fisa application? >> not to mileage. >> did he share with the agents on the case working the crossfire hurricane case? >> no. >> didn't share with agents on the

. >> it's not even his, time it's miss lofgren's. time the gentleman yields back to miss lot, from the time's expired. mr. durham, in the summer 2016, did our government receive intelligence that suggested secretary clinton had approved a plan to tie president trump to russia? >> yes. >> was that intelligence important enough for director brennan to go brief the president of the united states, the vice president, states attorney general united states, and the director of the fbi? >> yes. >> and was an intelligence put into a memorandum? or for all memorandum? >> was that then given to director comey and agent struck? >> yes, it was addressed, yes. >> the director comey share that memorandum with the court? >> i'm sorry. >> did he share that memorandum with the court? did director comey do that? >> i'm not aware that if he did. >> did he share it with the lawyers preparing the fisa application? >> not to mileage. >> did he share with the agents on the case working the crossfire hurricane case? >> no. >> didn't share with agents on the