lofton. mr. lofton: nicotine is addictive. labels on our products. ms. degette: do you think they an cause the harms i talked about? mr. lofton: we'll leave it up to the f.d.a. say egette: when you nicotine is addictive, i don't lot of young people understands what that means in terms of health consequences. nivakoff, i was moved when you said what your grandmother your grandfather. my mother died of lung cancer at smoking when she started doing when she was under 21. i'm sure she knew it was i don't think she had any idea. i think people think that sure, they're addictive, but they won't cause the same harm as cigarettes. really know.on't now, i want to ask you another question. maybe you'll answer it. do you agree with the c.d.c. there is no completely safe tobacco product, including e-cigarettes? mr. cross waite: no. s. degette: including your e-cigarettes? mr. nivakoff. yes. >> mr. lofton: all tobacco products carry risk. question.e: one last do you agree there is a youth vaping epidemic in this country 21 should eople under not be using e-cigarettes

lofton?'t it true then that using the products each of your companies make, which contain nicotine, could lead to nicotine addiction? mr. causeway >> yes, nicotine is addictive. >> and your products could lead to nicotine addiction. >> mr. oberlander? >> yes, nicotine is adktive. >> and your product people use that contain nicotine can cause people to become addicted? >> yes, ma'am. >> mr. lofton? >> yes. >> and nicotine -- do you agree with the medical studies that show that nicotine can have negative consequences for respiratory health and cause an increase in blood pressure, heart rate and lead to heart disease and harm brain development in young people? >> as part of our ptma, we will have all of our studies submitted to be reviewed. >> so have you seen the studies that show there are these issues that i just mentioned? >> i'm not familiar with the one you're referring to. >> you don't know. do you maintain that nicotine causes no health consequences in people then? >> no, nicotine is add

. >> reporter: alex lofton is co-founder of landed.n't exactly dole out five and six-figure down payments as a gift, though. >> it's a long-term investment. >> reporter: they call it shared equity and here's how it works. teachers get money for a down payment now. then when they sell their home landed gets a cut. >> any profit that is generated from the sale goes back into a similar fund to help more educators in the future. >> could you see shared equity expanding to the general public someday? >> i think shared equity is a tool many people can use. myself included. part of the reason i got started was i was thinking hey, as a millennial in san francisco without a rich mom or dad how do i get started? >> reporter: another san francisco company unison is already offering something similar and to the public. >> you just have to change your mindset from going alone to going in unison. >> reporter: unison is a lot like landed. we tried to meet with them but weren't able to for this story. if you agree to give unison a slice of your home's

joining me now, david lofton also with us, matt miller. former spokes american for attorney general eric holder. he's an msnbc contributocontrib. let me get to the point the letter makes. for an attorney general to insert himself at this stage of the proceedings. but particularly one where the person being sentenced is a 30 year friend of the president of the united states? >> lawrence, a couple days ago, i used the analogy that we're at a break glass case for the federal government. it's unheard of for the attorney general to commandeer a case. the government took only 24 hours ago, on behalf of a political ally of the president. and that's why you saw an outcry from former department prosecutors and other officials, that's why you've seen an outcry from federal judges who, in an extraordinary move have called an emergency meeting of federal judges. >> the intervention by the attorney general is so peculiar because this final decision is up to a judge, the judge saw this happen, the judge watched this like the rest of us, and in effect bo

lofton mentioned controls in place. >> when i joined the organization, it was obvious to use levels wereunacceptable. we took immediate action when i joined and we pulled back and stopped all about product, digital broadcast advertising when i saw the access that youth were getting to certain flavors including bars, we stopped shipping meant last year. we are focused at preventing access in the retail channel and working on technology solutions with retailers to ensure dedications are scanned and book limit purchases are in place so transactions only happening with adults in retail stores. it is an effort we are focused on and we know we must combat the edger age access. >> and i jump to mr. oberlander? to anyoneeen directed 21 plus since the beginning. second, most about engagement is one-to-one permission based. third, were only supporters of -- protocols have age for online interactions. state-of-the-art -- online purchases. policies and penalties. >> i am out of time. you say you have controls in place? >> we always have a health warning. online we have strict age verification. we ha