only and some have larger operations and some get rent from the city in terms of where they are loidated so it is very different but we are aware of all the profiles of how the providers are trying to survooiv. for most of them they can't clarj enough to pay for the cost of infant care, they pay for 234fants are preschool enrollment and sometimes they have school age care and pay for preschoolers infants with school age enrollment >> supervisor yee. >> 1573 is pretty much market rate? >> in 2011 >> yeah. >> it is 85 percent of the market >> if people were to get that we probably can actually meet-we will probably need help with minimum wage in these centers if these centers operate state funded or get 1500 per child. i guess in converse as we move further along and the state isn't giving much of a increase and still giving pretty much about 800 dollars per month per child, and some of this you may or may not know, regardless of the rate you get unlike other fields where you can get maybe fewer dollars, but serve more kids and [inaudible] license cared you are bound by regulations to serv