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yeah, that's lois lerner back in 20 so. what she said on that tape may explain the entire irs targeting can sk scandal. we'll let you listen and decide for yourself. all those stories and much more coming up on the "kudlow report" beginning right now. good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is the "kudlow report". first up, let's look at positive signs in the global economy. initial jobless data out today. lowest level since before the recession. mortgage delinquencies, five year low. even traces of growth abroad. so my question is a simple one. are we underestimating the global economy? maybe we're all too pessimistic. or maybe not. here from the cme is rick santelli, also with us joe la voin i can't and jared bernstein. rick santelli, such a pleasure to have you back on the show. i go to you first. rick, your jobless claims have come down, lowest since november '07. food prices are actually falling in a new report today. that's great for consumers. and what really caught my eye was that serious u.s. mortgage delink

a e-mail from lois lerner which we produce. we are producing these e-mails. >> we want the e-mails from anyone at the irs, why can't we get that? >> we look at those two. -- we look at those too. in some cases, there were no e- mails. this is the point. we have a particular request, give it to us. >> william wilkins, we are not getting his e-mails. >> that is also not true. two things, if i could. we are producing because you made a specific request. if you want to put something at the front of the line, please put that at the front of the line. the other thing about wilkins is we have offered to interview wilkins before this committee. your staff has not taken us up on this offer. i hope you do because this is not about obstruction. this is a -- this is about offering as much information as we can. i know you have questions about their wilkins. we want to get you those answers. you haven't taken us up on our offer. >> i want to be clear. every single e-mail of lois lerner's that we have asked for, you sent to us? >> no. hundre

he found video of disgraced irs employee lois lerner from 2010.is tape she admits that everyone was screaming at the irs to stop the money park into the 2010 campaigns and elections. watch this. >> last year was the supreme court, chipped away, chipped away in the federal election arena. the supreme court dealt a huge blow. overturning a 100-year old president that said basically corporations could give directly to political campaigns. everyone is up in arms because they don't like it. and they can't do anything about it. they want the irs to fix the problem. the irs laws are not set up to fix the problem. they can do straight political activity. they can go out and pay for an ad that says vote for joe blow. that's something they can do as long as their primary activity is their c-4 activity. which is social welfare. so everybody is screaming at us, fix it now before the election. cannot you see how much these people are spending? i won't know until i look at their 990s next year whether they have done more than their primary activity as political

they asked about lois lerner that refused to testify. >> every single email of lois lerner that we have, you sent to us? >> no, but we provided hundreds of her emails. again this is a process. >> no, no, no. it's pretty simple. you go to her computer and get her emails. >> the leaders of the senate and leaders of finance committee they want the irs to be more cooperative in releasing documents. >> heather: elizabeth prann reporting for us in washington. coming up later in the hour, a closer look at the irs scandal and what role if any the white house is playing. >> gregg: some extreme weather in midwest. parts of a montana town recovering from major wind tornado. it toppled trees and knocking out power. witnesses say they are fortunate fortunate that no one was hurt. >> there was a lot of leaves and branches flying through the air and it could be the beginning of a tornado. >> we almost got blown away. >> scared, yes. >> gregg: janice dean is live? >> we'll give you up to date any watches or warnings but we could see a repeat performance of severe weather in areas of monday monitored. r

but all the roads still seem to lead to one lois lerner.t be that she really quarterbacked this entire thing? and 3 million time warner cable subscribers continue to live without their cbs channels. will this nasty blackout fight lead more folks to cut the cable cord? >>> whatsoever. we're not at the inflation target of 2%. we're not at the unemployment target of 7% or 6.5%. so there are no signs in terms of the macro factors that would indicate that the fed should stop easing. >> all right. that was blackstone's vice president byron wean on cnbc this morning. he's making the case the economy is too soft for the fed to reduce asset purchases. i happen to agree with him at this point. we've got time to wait on that. whatever. stocks fell on comments from chicago fed head charles evans and atlanta fed chief dennis lockhart that tapering should begin in september. so when is it right to be worried about stocks? is it the second half of this year? is that going to be the deal? let's bring in cnbc contributor john rutledge. he is the chief inves

then e-mailed lois lerner at the irs? s.e.c.chairman don mccann joins us. >> nice to see you. >> why is the fec in this? >> the fec is in this because there were some fec staff that reached out to the irs in 2008 regarding a few conservative groups and as you know the irs has already come under fire for targeting conservative groups. this was made public somewhat recently by folks in the house of representatives. >> what business does the fec have going to the irs for information? was this public or private information? >> originally an fec investigator reached out to the irs directly to lois lerner, the person who has come under most fire at irs asking for more information about a group called the american future fund and the request was for information generally, and the irs cannot provide general information. eventually the irs did provide some public information. what is interesting is, first of all, why would an fec investigator be reaching out to the irs without commission approval. the way the fec works -- >> you're on th

today, lois lerner is being given full play and not held accountable. our job is to find out everyone there should be held accountable and make sure the american people can trust us this will not happen again because i believe if we are thwarted in this investigation this will become a pattern of behavior, whether by the chief executive of the united states, or simply by individuals who have power within bureaucracies such as the irs, epa, osha and the like. mr. chairman, i now owe six minutes to the democratic -- >> julie noted. >> i yield back. >> and i recognize at this point the ranking member of the full committee -- >> i counted seven. >> i will make that determination. >> i'm just looking at the clock. >> we started at four. you were not here. i will make the determination. >> mr. werfel, thank you for recognizing, mr. chairman. >> you are recognized for five minutes. i will consult with the ranking member to see how we history but the balance of the time i promised. thank you spent mr. werfel, first of all unwanted thank you for your service. i

today, lois lerner is being given full pay and not held accountable. our job is to find out everyone that should be held accountable and make sure the american people can trust this will not happen again. i believe if we move forward in this investigation, this will become a pattern of behavior. whether by the chief executive of the united states or by individuals who have power within bureaucracies such as the irs, epa, osha and the like. mr. chairman, i now 06 minutes to the democrats. >> duly noted. i recognize at this point the ranking member of the full committee -- >> i counted seven. >> i will make that determination. we started at 4:00. yo >> thank you for recognizing me, mr. chairman. >> you are recognized for five minutes. i will consult with the ranking member to see how we distribute the balance of the time. >> mr. werfel, thank you for your service. i have listened to what was said to you and i again thank you for your service. earlier this week, chairman issa accused you of obstructing the committee's investigation because you were not pr

you have e-mails going back and forth between the federal election commission lawyers and lois lerner at the irs, discussion the american future funds tax information, and in fact discussing it before the information was even publicly available, and that pattern, again, is incredibly troubling. >> neil: does it matter to you, nick, who started correspondence first? if it were the fec first saying, hey, heads up on this group because we think there's something not quite cope set tech with them. that would be bad. but then i'm thinking can it would be even worse if the irs calls the fec you about to to hear about this one. either way it's scary, isn't it? >> either way it's very scary and the entire problem really does rest within the confines of the bureaucracy of the irs and it's absolutely wrong, absolutely illegal for them to share confidential tax information. neil: it's absolutely endorse bed the mainstream media. it's like the scandal that wasn't a scandal. it's like gone air. what do you think of that? >> well, if you listen to the white house, they say it's a phony scandal, and

lois lerner she hasn't provided any information. we think she waived her 5th amendment right. i would be in favor of calling her back. if she continues to refuse to answer questions holding her in contempt of the congress. i think that would be appropriate because of lack of information. >> a new fox news poll finds that 59 percent of americans believer the irs scandal is serious. about half as many 33 percent say it's a phony scandal. >> peter doocy, thank you so much. >>> the funeral service reportedly used by nsa leaker edward snowden is abruptly shut down. he can't say why. but he wrote a script tick message on the web page saying in part he would not be complicity in crimes against the american people. he went on to say he would not give up without a legal fight. the justice department has not commented. >> testimony is expected to continue at 10:00 eastern in the trial of the fort hood shooter nad nidal hasan. witnesses describe the horrific scene of blood and chaos during the 2009 shooting rampage. michael davis testified tha

thank you about. >> lois lerner took the fifth. she is not talking. what about her e-mails, any secrets there? the house oversight committee wants lerner to turn over from her personal account that she may have used to conduct irs business. karl rove joins us. >> karl, i have a letter dated august 13th from chairman issa and jordan. congressman jordan, and sent to lois lerner. theyen watt her personal e-mails, they think there's something there. why do they want that? >> because they -- in the course of the investigation, they uncovered that she had certain e-mails on her government account that she had sent to her personal account. an msn.com account that was carried on her irs computer as lois lerner home. she was apparently sending e-mails from her government account to a private account, and they want to know what happened, they want to know what she did with that, did she take those documents and alter them? did she share them with other people? did she pass them on to other people inside the government or outside the government? theyen watt to be

>> every single e-mail that -- of lois lerner's we canada -- we asked for, you sent to us? >> no, but we provided hundreds of her e-mails -- >> but -- >> this is a process. >> no, no, no, no. it's simple you. go to her computer and get her e-mails. >>> everything single e-mail from lois lerner, correspond from bill wilkins and any corporations between them and the white house. >> here's my answer if i could -- >> i've given you plenty of time to answer. >> this is a process and we're providing information on a rolling basis, we're gifting -- getting it as quickly as we can. if you have a specific request -- >> we want every bit of corporations from lois lerner and you won't give it to us. >> neil: that went well. they want answers and say the irs didn't do anything wrong, acting irs head, dan werfel, has a funny way of showing it. talk about a guy between a rock and a hard place, but did not comport himself well. >> he is brand new on the job. he was not there when the nonsense was going, but he said we're complying, providing documents on a rolling basis. what do the docum

today, lois lerner is being given full pay and not held accountable.ur job is to find out everyone that should be held accountable and make sure the american people can trust this will not happen again. i believe if we move forward in this investigation, this will become a pattern of behavior. whether by the chief executive of the united states or by individuals who have power within bureaucracies such as the irs, epa, osha and the like. mr. chairman, i now owe 6 minutes to the democrats. >> duly noted. i recognize at this point the ranking member of the full committee -- >> i counted seven. >> i will make that determination. we started at 4:00. you weren't here, sir. >> thank you for recognizing me, mr. chairman. >> you are recognized for five minutes. i will consult with the ranking member to see how we distribute the balance of the time. >> mr. werfel, thank you for your service. i have listened to what was said to you and i again thank you for your service. earlier this week, chairman issa accused you of obstructing the committee's investigation be

we want every single in the from lois lerner. we want every single correspondence from bill wilkins and any correspondence between the irs and the white house. you haven't given it all to his. >> here's the answer if i could, which is this is a process and we are providing information on a rolling basis. we are getting as quickly as we can do you. if you have a specific request will do our best to put that off the top of the priority -- >> we want every bit of correspondence from lois lerner, and you won't give it to us. here's the later broke the story with a planted question. here's the later took the fifth. here's the lady was at the center of the storm come and we want every bit of e-mail from her and you won't give it to his speed i will take -- >> you've had three months. >> i want to be what we are committed to be we're committed to rethink everyone of her e-mails and providing the response. some of it has to be redacted, 6103. some has to be reviewed for relevance and -- >> why would lois lerner have 6103 information in h

i'm with you on the lois lerner thing. her name keeps popping up. i would love to see some resolution there. it's not my call. i'm just a member of the committee. i think her hands have been in so many different things that she really needs to be held accountable. >> if the president said to the fec, s.e.c. or irs the to cooperate now and right away that it wouldn't be like an uphill battle for something you are obligated to do as providing oversight to the agencies. the president could help on this. >> he could. he's made his position clear. he doesn't think this is something he should have to deal with. his attorney general, mr. holder, has not been zealous with the irs. that's the position we find ourselves in. it has the american people asking for answers. that puts pressure on folks in power. >> thank you. i hope the american people demand answers to move this and find out what did or didn't happen and move on. we need cooperation from the administration on the this. thank you, sir. >> absolutely. >> not all members of congress are using the fu

this bombshell was revealed in a letter from the chairman of the house oversight committee to lois lerner. she pled the fifth. remains on paid administrative leave. according to congressman darrell issa, "we have learned that you sent documents related to your official duties from your official irs e-mail account to an msn.com e-mail account labeled lois home. the label goes on to read "we write to request documents related to your official duties that are house in non-official e-mail accounts." in other words, ms. lerner needs to take a break from her taxpayer funded vacation, hand over all of the e-mails that she's been hiding from congressional investigators and she needs to do so no later than 5:00 p.m. on august 27th. joining me now with reaction is the man who has been leading this important investigation from the get-go, chairman of the house oversight committee, congressman darrell issa. good to see you. >> thanks for covering this update in one of the scandals that even the president can't in good faith call phony. >> yeah, good point. explain in detail why this is important, and

it seems odd that an investigator would reach out to lois lerner directly.g for documents and hopefully they will do their job and we'll see where this takes us. >> mr. vice chairman, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> coming up, the truth behind the jobs numbers. find out why the white house was not high fiving with the july news and you'll hear from one frustrated job seeker. that's next. >>> what is with politicians tweeting pictures? we'll show you another one. you have to see this, coming up. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share f

>> correct. >> why do you think -- lois lerner is the common thread. is that her job or do you suspect something more sinister involved? >> i think it would be very helpful if she would testify. it doesn't appear that will happen. one thing that is true, she is the common thread. you have what appears to be a very rogue actor within the bureaucracy of the irs that has targeted a number of different groups. until we can hear from her or get more information from the fec and the irs with this mountain of e-mails that actually do exist, that they have yet to turn over to the committees that are investigating them. >> are you satisfied you have all the information about your organization between the fec and the irs? or do you think there is more? >> i think there is more. when this entire thing started with the other small groups, i would never have thought it would have turned into this and included us. it seems every day or every week that goes by as those investigations continues, more comes out. i wouldn't be surprised with anything that comes out. >>

. >> the law firm representing lois lerner will have no comment regarding the letter sent to her by these oversight letter. that letter says "the fact that it appears that lois home is saved in your irs e-mail account raises concerns that you have sent irs documents to at least one nonofficial e-mail dress and that you may have conducted official business using nonofficial accounts." >> here's the lady that pled the fifth and wouldn't answer congress' question or the questions of the american people and now they conducted professional business on a personal account hiding it from the taxpayers and hiding it from the american people. we want all of her e-mails that deals anything with this scandal, we want that information. >> the committee knows that lerner sent a speech she gave to her personal msn account. the u.s. code states in particular about this kind of thing. no officer or employee of the united states shall disclose any return or return information obtained by him in any manner in connection with his service as such an officer. >> we don't know who has access to her private e-

we may have another part of testimony from lois lerner.>peter: government employees using personal e-mails or text messages to conduct official business is a big no-no and a big red signal to prosecutors and others what was going on, what was doing. why were they so-called off-line and not on the government computers? >>brian: so lois lerner, they're going to try to get her personal account. but the woman who brought us the fifth amendment will also find a way to skirt around this. another interesting thing, the i.r.s. has a new focus, targeting small business, including mom and pop organizations who they feel are not paying enough taxes. if the small business has their back against the wall any way saying is this worth it, 20,000 letters went out in the first wave looking to find out if everyone is on the up and up including the person who owns the candy store down the street. >>peter: basically saying we're watching you really closely, that you shouldn't sleep at night. >>gretchen: if you think this is going to go away now, karl rove had

. >> is that why lois lerner pleaded the fifth? >> there's only one problem with that.hat's against the law. >> steve, let him talk. >> go ahead. >> it's not a citizen. it's two governmental agencies. there's specific provisions that prohibit it with groups like the fec. the fec is not exempt. it's not one of them. that's number one. >> so you're defending using tamt exempt dollars. >> you keep cutting me off, but let me give you facts. eric holder said there may be criminal investigations. sean, i'm representing one of the groups. they say they need an exception of time, why, because of criminal investigations of irs officials. that's pretty clear although we haven't been contacted by anybody with the fbi but they're saying there's an investigation. number three, the lois lerner e-mail back and forth to the fec lawyer was going on when there was not even an fec investigation. that has to be authorized. you know what the answer is? no wonder she took the fifth amendment. >> before we get to that, jay, i want to ask you one more question. explain, though, the law as it r

the targeted groups, out of cincinnati, washington, whether it involved lois lerner, and then i'm hearinghey couldn't name the investigator, couldn't cite his progress and all the groups targeted don't remember a phone call or inquiry from said investigation which raises my doubts again as to whether an investigation is going on. >> the only investigation going on is the administration, even when we don't ask for documents correctly related to progressive groups, gives them to us. they drop the key words we want a search, add key words that give them progressive groups and send that information. this is a real scandal. had has nothing to do my opinion with the president but it happened under his watch. it's the best -- >> neil: wait a minute, you say did i'm sorry but you're saying it's not involving the president. those who are. >> that's it. >> thinking it led to him, you don't think it does. >> one of the challenges of my committee is not overstate what when he know. it goes to the chief council's office. we follow the facts. the terrifying thing is even when it doesn't appear to be to

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we have lois lerner pleading the fifth. by the way i'm innocent. i don't have anything to hide. the irs is supposed to collect taxes. it is not supposed to give political organization. it is supposed to be a neutral organization so that we will have extra dollars to pay for our government programs. so -- whether the irs cooperated or not, we don't know because we can't get a true hearing on the issue. obama said that his presidency would be of transparency. so -- americans can know what the government is doing but there is no accountability or transparency. because the people who deal -- are accused of what they are doing, no one has been fired. >> you know the bottom line here, american people just say, you know, what's going on with the irs? there's already a distrust of the irs anyway because of the huge bureaucracy that actually taps into your financial stability or your financial accounts. no one likes to pay taxes. now we are still hearing a distrust among american taxpayers. how do you get beyond this? >> angela and i would agree on this. the way i move it forward is ask

liz: you could see why lois lerner pled the fifth.democratic high-profile democratic senators are writing letters to the irs pressuring them to act but most of those came in 2012. senator max baucus read the letter to the irs in september 2010, lerner speaking in the video in october of 2010. we need to get special prosecutor to find out who was pressuring the irs in 2010. >> what we need is we need to have the administration respond to the subpoena the oversight committee issued. on july 30th, darrell issa and the committee looking into this and a letter to the acting irs commissioner and said not only are you obstructing our investigation by not responding to our request that you specifically did not give documents out of the blight house, the irs chief counsel. by statute certainly to political appointees in the irs, the commissioner and chief helpful. at the time this was going on the commissioner was a george bush appointee, the chief counsel is william wilkins, the only obama political appointee in the irs. the people who were o

i'm looking at an e-mail from 2008 where lois lerner did exactly that. >> what is it that an mates the hope in you that you're not going to have the same problems in implementing the affordable care act that cmc demonstrated it has all kind of difficulty on medicare. >> congressman, i see absolutely no connection between the fraudulent payment rate in medicare and the work i'm doing. none. >> is that it? >> well, the end of congressional hearing does not end the grilling. our griff jenkins trying to get more answers out of danny werfel. >> mr. commissioner, quick question. fox news, can we ask you a question about your speech you gave? you talked about the challenging issues. the trust in the american people, can you comment on the latest of what you claim to do to restore that faith and trust? >> that's a question i'd like to take a longer time to answer. i just answered questions for three hours. i have pressing appointments back at the irs. >>> you talked about the challenges. would you describe them in any way as a phony, is that in your mind phony? >> i just went through through h

to serve as an advisor to the man who replaced the learned lois lerner.esn't get any better than this folks. with me, president of the media firm fletcher riley, john riley and my friend republican strategist and fox news contributor tony siaz. john, the program manager at that cincinnati tax exempt position moved to washington. the president called the behavior inexcusable. is this the interpretation you bring them to d.c. and promote them? >> since the scandal begin, seven people have been fired or run out of office. >> judge jeanine: lois lerner is still getting paid. >> someone was fired. this person.... >> judge jeanine: you know why? paul ingraham the commissioner of the office responsible got promoted and is now running the obamacare. the guy who was going to resign? >> exactly. >> judge, this is cincinnati office that even the head of the irs at the time was responsible for terrible customer service. is this what the head of the office gets? a plum promotion to head washington? now we are hearing testifying that the acting irs commissioner no proc

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we learned lois lerner was doing work from her personal account.not going to stop until we get to the truth. martha: you would think she would want to speak out with her side of the story. we would like to see that. i think the american people would like to see what she has to say. congressman jordan, thank you for being with us this morning. bill: 22 before the hour. the testimony getting more emotional in the fort hood case. one witness says the crime scene was the worst he had ever seen. that's a member of the u.s. military talking there. martha: republicans take on fellow republicans over the best way to fight obama-care and those on the left are paying attention to how this is playing out. what liberals are gearing up to do on their side. >> you mean to suggest we are not going to fight and we shouldn't fight because we are so afraid of being blamed for it? this is how we get into this mess when we say we are afraid the other side is not going to cave so we have to. so we cave and we cave and we cave and we get obama-care and new entitlement p

the idea of lois lerner using a separate email account, a personal one, allegedly do to do corporateiness for the government. what do you think about that? >> we don't know exactly what she was doing with that personal account or whether there was anything wrong with it. but, republicans are naturally very suspicious of her because she has played this thing falsely from the beginning when she blamed cincinnati for the entire matter. when she was really at the center of it from the beginning. i think those investigative committees will inevitably be calling her up again. >> john: there are reporting regulations if you do government business on your personal email you are supposed to copy that over to your government email so that it can be archived. allegations that didn't happen here. >> right. i think that there is a lot of mistrust regarding lois lerner and so the -- i think people tend to assume that perhaps there is something in there that we need to see. i think that congress is completely within their rights. i mean, they have demanded those emails. they should subpoena them an

campaign and we'll buy the phones from him and hilary is in on it because she said nobody cares and lois lerner will take the fifth. we don't have to worry about it getting out of hand and i think the xpayers don't care. they elected us and how do we know differently. >> can you hear me now? >> juan, it is deceptive for you to say it is not tax dollars. it is a tax. >> how is it a tax johnathon. >> you may a monthly union versal service tax, juan. >> that's not emposed by the government. >> hold on. the phone company as part of the regulatory. >> it part of the governme and not your responsibility to service anyone else's need. if they want a phone have them pay for it themselves. technology made is almost fro for anyone. goggle and mobile phones are cheap. >> juan you are so angry at the 54 in this country. (talking all at once) >> that is not a fair comment. >> john thon, you don't realize it is written in the constitution. everybody gets a fro phone. you haven't read the constitution lately? >> pull up the full screenf the fcc comment. adopted comprehensive reforms to comabout the waste, aud

she will share position who was once a close advisor to lois lerner.he was the first one to talk about the targeting. she still faces scrutiny and she could end up facing a special prosecutor. >> this is why l lois lerner took the fifth. >> meanwhile, a congressional hearing reveals tea party groups are getting extra scrutiny as an unidentified irs agent that the agency has yet to come up with guidance for certain groups. >> it shows that groups are still being sjsd out. >> singled out. >> they say the ongoing targeting is outrageous but they wanted to better understand the concept. irs screening is clear, it's based on words and not maims. house republicans have also called on the federal election commission to turn over irs commission records. they have pushed for more interagency exchanges including that of lerner which may have shared confidential tax information. >> gregg: elizabeth, thanks. >> coming up later. we'll get to the stunning new allegations from an irs employee that testified before congress that the agency is still targeting conservat