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my gosh, lois lerner herself -- lois lerner herself, i don't care what the left says about it. we all know there was political bias. >> mr. chairman -- >> we all find fault with lois lerner and we ought to find fault with her. now was it criminal work? i don't know. they say no. i accept that. senator heller. >> mr. chairman, just before we go to senator heller, our investigators, our bipartisan investigators -- this is not somebody else. this is our people talked to every employee and they said no political bias. >> i don't think our side said that. senator heller. >> mr. chairman, thank you. and to the ranking member, also thank you very much for holding this hearing. i want to thank the ranking member for following up on the cell phone tracking issue of the irs and hope that you don't take today's response as an answer. i would anticipate it would take one rogue member of the irs group that could take an issue like this and expand it far beyond what the scope of it was initially intended. but having said that, commissioner, thank you very much for being here and thanks for t
my gosh, lois lerner herself -- lois lerner herself, i don't care what the left says about it. we all know there was political bias. >> mr. chairman -- >> we all find fault with lois lerner and we ought to find fault with her. now was it criminal work? i don't know. they say no. i accept that. senator heller. >> mr. chairman, just before we go to senator heller, our investigators, our bipartisan investigators -- this is not somebody else. this is our people talked to every...
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the 420 tapes that serves as a backup to lois lerner's hard drive. these backup tapes were droid in 2014. they were at the time the subject of a litigation hold. this is more significant than the loss of lois lerner's hard drive. can you tell us how the employees that disregarded the litigation hold were dealt with? >> as the justice department notes, there's further activity going on that again i will be delighted to keep the committee advised in terms of what happens beyond that. as a general matter, both the ig in their year-long investigation and justice found that no one purposefully destroyed those tapes. the employees involved trying to obstruct anybody's investigation. they thought of them as junk and did not understand the litigation or the document retrengs program. but that's been thoroughly investigat investigated. >> there's been no consequences for not honoring that litigation hold. it also talks about the failure of the irs for the responsive of the documents. if the foia request had been responded to, we could have avoided a lot of th
the 420 tapes that serves as a backup to lois lerner's hard drive. these backup tapes were droid in 2014. they were at the time the subject of a litigation hold. this is more significant than the loss of lois lerner's hard drive. can you tell us how the employees that disregarded the litigation hold were dealt with? >> as the justice department notes, there's further activity going on that again i will be delighted to keep the committee advised in terms of what happens beyond that. as a...
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we had held lois lerner in contempt of congress.he statute says they shall refer that to the grand jury. the department of justice said after 10 months of study they don't have to do that, despite the law. so we have to do what found in the constitution that is we can hold a civil officer -- we can go forward with impeachment proceedings. that's what's laid out in the constitution. and that is at this point really our own remedy to hold them accountable. >> all right. congressman jason chaffetz, a lot on your plate last night and today. thank you, sir, for joining us on the real story. >> thanks, gretchen. >> >> let's bring it back to the panel here in studio. now we are talking about this impeachment potentially of koskinen. i'm remembering back, chris, when obama put him in this position. he said look this is going to be totally fair and balanced and make sure the perfect person to head this whole thing. do the american people buy that? >> well, look, we have got another case where lois lerner came in and pleaded the fifth amendme
we had held lois lerner in contempt of congress.he statute says they shall refer that to the grand jury. the department of justice said after 10 months of study they don't have to do that, despite the law. so we have to do what found in the constitution that is we can hold a civil officer -- we can go forward with impeachment proceedings. that's what's laid out in the constitution. and that is at this point really our own remedy to hold them accountable. >> all right. congressman jason...
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lois lerner took the fifth. eric holder never did anything to seek to enforce her testimony or do anything at all to hold her in contempt and she is getting a pension. she is allowed to retire. the commissioner goes before the -- before the house and says documents don't exist that do exist and he gets all huffy when he gets confronted about it. >> to me, all of those things may be true. but this is our system of justice in this country. it may not be something that we like, greta. >> it's not justice for everybody else who has been subject to the abuse of the irs. when americans are sitting at home and seeing what's going on here in washington, they ought to be damn mad and maybe this is our system of justice but maybe you peel back the scab and show what it's like. >> greta,gree. they need to be damn mad. i'm damn mad. but the fact about it is that the justice department has spoken. impeachment is not the way to go. if you can impeach and you are going to be successful, go for it. but if you are not going to b
lois lerner took the fifth. eric holder never did anything to seek to enforce her testimony or do anything at all to hold her in contempt and she is getting a pension. she is allowed to retire. the commissioner goes before the -- before the house and says documents don't exist that do exist and he gets all huffy when he gets confronted about it. >> to me, all of those things may be true. but this is our system of justice in this country. it may not be something that we like, greta....
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even people who did not like lois lerner. irs disputes allegations in resolution to impeach mr. -- jerry this is big news what led to impeachment proceedings. let's break this down. why does he say koskinen should be impeached? he said he has violated the public trust, destroys evidence, the irs erased, by mistake, they say 422 tapes that contain 24,000 lois lerner e-mails. they also say he lied under oaghtoathby saying he turned ovl evidence, and saying he failed to notify congress that the key evidence was missing, even though he told white house and treasury it was the missing. they are building a pretty damaging case against john koskinen. the oversight committee is a house committee, the committee this morning is a senate finance committee, in this hearing, john koskoskinen said there is no objective review that shope they were taking advantage of. liz: it was a very heated hearing on capitol hill. >> way back in 1876, only person who ra'ana ran -- an agency that congress tried to take down this path, they were unsuccess
even people who did not like lois lerner. irs disputes allegations in resolution to impeach mr. -- jerry this is big news what led to impeachment proceedings. let's break this down. why does he say koskinen should be impeached? he said he has violated the public trust, destroys evidence, the irs erased, by mistake, they say 422 tapes that contain 24,000 lois lerner e-mails. they also say he lied under oaghtoathby saying he turned ovl evidence, and saying he failed to notify congress that the...
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that lois lerner was guilty of anything. it talks about is all about what the politicians on those committees said. they're not real lawyers. they're just talking politics, when a person can claim immunity or not, fifth amendment, and, also, the guy who is head of that committee, he is the one that jumped out a week or so ago wanting to be . eaker of the house he's always attacking the internal revenue service, the government, obama. his partner from utah he thought was going to beat obama. he didn't. this lady is just talking a lot of hoopla. also, the i.r.s., it was found that that department that lois lerner worked in was scrutinized and not only the conservative groups but they were scrutinizing all of the groups who were applying for those tax-exempt statuses. this lady with that examiner, that newspaper she works for, that's a bunch of trash. host: all right. we'll have to leave it there. sarah westwood? guest: well, the criteria that the i.r.s. used to go after political groups, it was called the bolo list, the be on
that lois lerner was guilty of anything. it talks about is all about what the politicians on those committees said. they're not real lawyers. they're just talking politics, when a person can claim immunity or not, fifth amendment, and, also, the guy who is head of that committee, he is the one that jumped out a week or so ago wanting to be . eaker of the house he's always attacking the internal revenue service, the government, obama. his partner from utah he thought was going to beat obama. he...
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over to you>> a man who said he lost lois lerner's e-mails.epublicans might get the last word. >> no more night sticks. giving cops the numb chucks. i really like this organic soup. yeah. at least we know what he's eating. campbell's organic soups. made for real, real life. >> they started impeachment process against john koskinen. >> 18 members of the house of representatives introduced a resolution to begin impeachment proceedings against koskinen. making false statement the regarding the scandal and thousands at the lois lerner scandal. irs erased hundreds of backup tapes containing potentially thousands of e-mails from learner. congressman says irs commissioner koskinen made false statements about the e-mails telling congress nothing had been lost of destroyed. >> when you see this nobody will be held accountable. we tried to investigate it under koskinen's guidance the irs stone walled us. are we going to slug our shoulders and say nobody is held accountable? >> there was all kinds of intent to target conservative groups. this justice dep
over to you>> a man who said he lost lois lerner's e-mails.epublicans might get the last word. >> no more night sticks. giving cops the numb chucks. i really like this organic soup. yeah. at least we know what he's eating. campbell's organic soups. made for real, real life. >> they started impeachment process against john koskinen. >> 18 members of the house of representatives introduced a resolution to begin impeachment proceedings against koskinen. making false...
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i just want to also reiterate that apparently they have said in this report that lois lerner used poor judgment in using her e-mail account. am i hearing now that this is a done deal? >> it would appear a done deal. again, what you have to know or i don't know if it's possible to know is whether the fbi had what it felt was a substantial case against lerner but the decision of the justice department was not to proceed. >> it also said the evidence finally said she did not intentionally cause her hard drive to crash and did not conceal documents. what do you make from that? >> you've got a lot more in the e-mail than i've been able to read. it does sound like there was insufficient evidence in the opinion of the fbi to proceed with what they consider to be a deliberate act to target conservatives and also to destroy evidence in the case which was the collapse of the hard drive. >> real quickly, these were nonpartisan entities looking into this? >> that's correct. the director of the fbi has a ten-year fixed term. it's a job not supposed to be influenced by politics. based on this e-mail
i just want to also reiterate that apparently they have said in this report that lois lerner used poor judgment in using her e-mail account. am i hearing now that this is a done deal? >> it would appear a done deal. again, what you have to know or i don't know if it's possible to know is whether the fbi had what it felt was a substantial case against lerner but the decision of the justice department was not to proceed. >> it also said the evidence finally said she did not...
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that had to raise 422 backup tapes contains as many as 24,000 of lois lerner's e-mails. many of them reappeared, but i think at one point they were trying to subpoena the server that these were on and they lost the server, which is pretty big deal, a pretty big thing. >> it is a big deal. >> bottom line, they are saying we can't believe -- we go back and forth on this, apparently with the hearing, how far do you think this goes? >> i think it has to go as far as it can. when i voted, i voted for eric holder to be held in contempt. and i think we need to send a message to the head of the agencies in the federal government. it doesn't matter whether it is democrat or republican, you're not above the law. and let's always remember that richard nixon stepped down basically over breaking and entering to a campaign office. now we are talking about a federal government agency with the power of taxation that was aimed against american people. american citizens. and we cannot allow that to stand. >> congressman, thank you very much. just to bring you up-to-date on the impeachment
that had to raise 422 backup tapes contains as many as 24,000 of lois lerner's e-mails. many of them reappeared, but i think at one point they were trying to subpoena the server that these were on and they lost the server, which is pretty big deal, a pretty big thing. >> it is a big deal. >> bottom line, they are saying we can't believe -- we go back and forth on this, apparently with the hearing, how far do you think this goes? >> i think it has to go as far as it can. when i...
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okay, so for folks who have been in a cave, what did lois lerner do wrong?ups based upon their political ideology, or her perception of their political ideology. >> so did she do it evenly? >> no! she made it very, very difficult for conservative and libertarian and conservative christian groups to get a tax exemption in order to raise tax-free dollars to use to spread their message. a right that every group of every political stripe in the united states has. >> and you know, something like that would help a particular political party in advance of ap election, wouldn't it? >> it certainly would help the democrats. and what she did was to drag her feet so long, in holding up on the approvals, that these groups missed one, and in some cases, two federal election cycles. and the e-mails, the ones that the irs didn't destroy, the ones that it found, showed that there was such an antipathy in the federal government to the supreme court's opinion on citizens united, that this was done intentionally, on command from the white house, in order to attempt to neutrali
okay, so for folks who have been in a cave, what did lois lerner do wrong?ups based upon their political ideology, or her perception of their political ideology. >> so did she do it evenly? >> no! she made it very, very difficult for conservative and libertarian and conservative christian groups to get a tax exemption in order to raise tax-free dollars to use to spread their message. a right that every group of every political stripe in the united states has. >> and you know,...
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now that there will be no charge for lois lerner, she'll talk to us later. martha: massive flooding in texas, the storms moving in but the cleanup is just under way. bill: chris christie'out spokenness is causing a fuss. this is todd hardy. a fitness buff, youth baseball coach-and lung cancer patient. the day i got the diagnosis, i was just shocked. the surgeon in dallas said i needed to have the top left lobe of my lung removed. i wanted to know what my other options were. and i found that at...
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no criminal charges for lois lerner in the irs targeting scandal.ustice department announced it friday afternoon. kind of one of those dumping bad news while everybody is napping. all rise, judge napitano is here, so she did absolutely nothing criminally illegal? >> well, i profoundly disagree with this. this is an unfortunate dark place in american history and government where politics and law enforcement intersect and sometimes the justice department and candidly, justice departments of both political parties, doesn't matter who is in the white house, have done this and just decided it's better for us or for the country if we don't prosecute. if you look at this from an objective point of view, is there enough evidence to present to a grand jury to persuade the grand jury it's more likely than not that she committed a crime and that the government can prove the crime? absolutely, yes, the destruction of e-mails, targeting of individuals and a long list for which she could be charged. stuart: is this a case of president obama telling his justice de
no criminal charges for lois lerner in the irs targeting scandal.ustice department announced it friday afternoon. kind of one of those dumping bad news while everybody is napping. all rise, judge napitano is here, so she did absolutely nothing criminally illegal? >> well, i profoundly disagree with this. this is an unfortunate dark place in american history and government where politics and law enforcement intersect and sometimes the justice department and candidly, justice departments of...
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proceedings was the decision last week by the department of justice, not to press charges against lois lerner. when that decision was made, the chairman of the house oversight committee jason chaffetz tweeted that a clear message will not be tolerated. there may be another fact that are spurred the impeachment resolution. the imminent change in house leadership. paul ryan chairman of the house ways and means committee, also had jurisdiction over the irs. listen to his last words to koskennen. >> i don't believe you, this is incredible. >> i have a long career. that's the first time that anybody has said they don't believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> it may be with ryan expected to come in chairman chaffetz felt he had a green light to go with an impeachment resolution. he said the commissioner violated the public trust. he failed to comply with a congressly-issued subpoena. the public was consistently misled. ranking member elijah cummings lamb baslambasted the comment. >> no evidence of any political targeting. the resolution occurred hours after kosskinen testified on the senate side abo
proceedings was the decision last week by the department of justice, not to press charges against lois lerner. when that decision was made, the chairman of the house oversight committee jason chaffetz tweeted that a clear message will not be tolerated. there may be another fact that are spurred the impeachment resolution. the imminent change in house leadership. paul ryan chairman of the house ways and means committee, also had jurisdiction over the irs. listen to his last words to koskennen....
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we know lois lerner pretty much got a slap on the wrist so it is escalateed?>> yeah, i think the american people watching following this investigation which has gone on for five years now are saying finally. thank you. action is being taken, and really it's because the cultural issues at the irs have not been addressed. he's thrown around these words of incompetency and dysfunction, but frankly that hasn't helped get to the bottom of breaking up some of what's happening at the irs that is keep anything of these targeting issues from being talked about and being changed for the future. deirdre: so christy, as a procedural matter, if there is a wrong done in the chain, does the buck stop with the top person? >> i suppose so, but the timing of this is incredibly suspicious. this is just one week after the justice department actually cleared the irs of any wrongdoing in exactly this situation with the tea party. so you have to really question the timing here and you have to question the philosophy which might be if you don't like the answer you just heard, try, tr
we know lois lerner pretty much got a slap on the wrist so it is escalateed?>> yeah, i think the american people watching following this investigation which has gone on for five years now are saying finally. thank you. action is being taken, and really it's because the cultural issues at the irs have not been addressed. he's thrown around these words of incompetency and dysfunction, but frankly that hasn't helped get to the bottom of breaking up some of what's happening at the irs that is...
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it appears lois lerner has dodged a bullet.r investigation into the irs for targeting conservative groups like the tea party, comes to this. the breaking news, no criminal charges will be filed against former irs official lois lerner or anyone else at the agency. the justice department saying in a statement, quote, the probe found substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment and institutional inertia, but poor management is not a crime. so no inappropriate motive found. lois lerner will not be charged by the department of justice. interesting, that is the breaking news. more on it as it becomes available. >>> the hot stocks, twitter rallying, up 4.5% today after ceo jack dorsey said what's mine is yours, giving a third of his shares worth 200 million dollars to employees. there will be fewer employees to give it to, though, twitter like espn announcing plans to lay off more than 300 people. but at least jack dorsey sharing some of the pot with whoever is left. not real pot, real money in the pot. wanted to clarify that.
it appears lois lerner has dodged a bullet.r investigation into the irs for targeting conservative groups like the tea party, comes to this. the breaking news, no criminal charges will be filed against former irs official lois lerner or anyone else at the agency. the justice department saying in a statement, quote, the probe found substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment and institutional inertia, but poor management is not a crime. so no inappropriate motive found. lois lerner will...
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and even people who did not like lois lerner, according to the department of justice, did not feel thatse views had influenced the decision. >> reporter: senator pat roberts indicated it was absurd for koskinen to suggest that conservatives were not targeted because of their political beliefs, and he recommended the commissioner be admitted to a select club here in washington, the flat earth society. jenna, back to you. jon: well, they tried to run, but this copycat bonnie and clyde couple could not get away. their dramatic capture coming up. >>> plus, a manhunt in kentucky for an armed and dangerous suspect. classes called off, residents on edge as a man accused of shooting and wounding a cop remains at large. >>> also, we want to hear from you. ben carson takes the top spot in a national poll for the first time, so how will donald trump react? our live chat is up and running. go to foxnews.com/happeningnow and get your thoughts into the conversation. with the pain and swelling of my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis... ordinary objects often seemed... intimidating. doing somethi
and even people who did not like lois lerner, according to the department of justice, did not feel thatse views had influenced the decision. >> reporter: senator pat roberts indicated it was absurd for koskinen to suggest that conservatives were not targeted because of their political beliefs, and he recommended the commissioner be admitted to a select club here in washington, the flat earth society. jenna, back to you. jon: well, they tried to run, but this copycat bonnie and clyde...
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. >>> to domestic matters, the justice department announcing that lois lerner will not face charges for targeting political groups. the probe found substantial evidence of mismanagement, misjudgment, but poor management is not a crime. that is a quote, that was the assistant attorney general making that statement. this closes a two-year investigation into whether or not the irs improperly targeted the tea party and other conservative groups. columnist janine barrely with me now, what does this message send to any party, tea party includeed? >> listen, this is the friday afternoon dump on americans, deirdre. and basically, the department of justice has essentially said that the irs can do and say whatever they want to intimidate americans who want to use their political standards and statures across the country. they can do and say whatever, and key can't challenge or hold them accountable. i think this is really horrible that lois lerner was able to use her power in this position to make this happen. deirdre: chuck, for your view, what the department of justice says that it found substa
. >>> to domestic matters, the justice department announcing that lois lerner will not face charges for targeting political groups. the probe found substantial evidence of mismanagement, misjudgment, but poor management is not a crime. that is a quote, that was the assistant attorney general making that statement. this closes a two-year investigation into whether or not the irs improperly targeted the tea party and other conservative groups. columnist janine barrely with me now, what...
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last year he said, we have turned over all the lois lerner e-mails when he knew in fact that thousands were missing and backup copies destroyed. the ranking member of the other side says just another big win. >> like benghazi, right? >> we don't need to know any more. >> it's going to be pass the house and 2/3 in the senate. it won't happen but you can make your own decisions. >> speaking of burying, it was not a story on any of the major newscasts last night. if a cabinet level person is going to be impeached, how is that not a story on abc, cbs or nbc? it was not. >> the good news for you, heather, you don't have to cover it because we just did. >> exactly. thank you. >> good morning, brian. great party last night. we'll hear more about that. >>> we start with a fox news alert. a pilot is rushed to the hospital after an american airlines was targeted by a laser in san diego. the green light striking -- this happened about 9:20 last night. that flight from phoenix landed safely. at this hour, not clear if that pilot was injured or simply taken to the hospital as a precaution. so far,
last year he said, we have turned over all the lois lerner e-mails when he knew in fact that thousands were missing and backup copies destroyed. the ranking member of the other side says just another big win. >> like benghazi, right? >> we don't need to know any more. >> it's going to be pass the house and 2/3 in the senate. it won't happen but you can make your own decisions. >> speaking of burying, it was not a story on any of the major newscasts last night. if a...
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they had the lois lerner emails. had the documents in hand, and destroyed them despite subpoena in place. false statements were given to congress. you can't do those things without consequence. imagine what would happen to you if you did that? so we'll hold them accountable. melissa: that was house oversight committee chairman jason chaffetz making case against embattled irs commissioner. joining me former irs officer mike sullivan. thanks for joining us. what is your reaction to all this? what do you think should happen. >> business as usual in washington. he is the sacrificial lam here. what is amazing about this between the department of justice and irs they spent over $20 million researching all this. took over two years and 160,000 man-hours. melissa: what is your point? what is your point? >> point is very simple. why are we doing it. already been investigated by the department of justice. melissa: are we doing this? we're trying to figure out why someone felt like it was okay to go destroy mountains of evidenc
they had the lois lerner emails. had the documents in hand, and destroyed them despite subpoena in place. false statements were given to congress. you can't do those things without consequence. imagine what would happen to you if you did that? so we'll hold them accountable. melissa: that was house oversight committee chairman jason chaffetz making case against embattled irs commissioner. joining me former irs officer mike sullivan. thanks for joining us. what is your reaction to all this? what...
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this comes after this week, where the department of justice decided not to go after criminally, lois lerneryou remember all of the back-and-forth that the bureaucrat, and what she did or did not do. here's the statement by jason chaffetz, commissioner koskinen violated the public trust. he failed to comply with congressionally-ished subpoena. documents were destroyed on his watch. impeachment is the appropriate tool to restore confidence in the irs and protect the interests of congress. democrat elijah cummings says just as in the benghazi and planned parenthood investigation, it appears the facts don't matter to republicans. this ridiculous resolution will demonstrate nothing, but the republican obsession with diving into investigative rabbit holes that waste tens of millions of taxpayer dollars while having absolutely no positive impact on a single american. calling this resolution a zunt or a joke would be insulting to stunts and jokes. the irs late tonight with a statement -- the irs vigorously disputes the allegations in the resolution. we have fully cooperated with all the investigati
this comes after this week, where the department of justice decided not to go after criminally, lois lerneryou remember all of the back-and-forth that the bureaucrat, and what she did or did not do. here's the statement by jason chaffetz, commissioner koskinen violated the public trust. he failed to comply with congressionally-ished subpoena. documents were destroyed on his watch. impeachment is the appropriate tool to restore confidence in the irs and protect the interests of congress....
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melissa: former irs director lois lerner is of the hook but john koskinen is back in the hot seat.day congress is starting a resolution to impeach the irs commissioner. he was grilled by the senate finance committee earlier on the agency's targeted scrutiny of tea party groups. this just a day after the department of justice decided not to pursue criminal charges against lois lerner. gerri willis has details on this story. gerri? >> that's right. as you might imagine the republicans on the committee not very happy with what the justice department said last week. in fact they were pedal to the metal asking john koskinen tough questions. the head of irs in fact saying hey, look, there was no targeting of these conservative groups. no targeting by in an objective review. now a lot of pushback against that. and republicans saying that what they really wanted was accountability. that is what they were really looking for. i want you to hear an exchange between senator pat roberts of kansas and koskinen on this issue of accountability. >> does anybody involved in this been fired, fined, r
melissa: former irs director lois lerner is of the hook but john koskinen is back in the hot seat.day congress is starting a resolution to impeach the irs commissioner. he was grilled by the senate finance committee earlier on the agency's targeted scrutiny of tea party groups. this just a day after the department of justice decided not to pursue criminal charges against lois lerner. gerri willis has details on this story. gerri? >> that's right. as you might imagine the republicans on...
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following the decision to not press charges against former irs commissioner lois lerner the senate finance committee held a hearing with the current irs commissioner john koskinen to examine the practices after the scandal. this is about two hours. >> the committee will come to order. i want to thank those who are here today. in may 2013 the treasury inspector general for tax administration revealed that in the run-up to the 2012 and 2010 elections the irs targeted certain organizations with extra and undue scrutiny based on the group's names and political views. needless to say, we took this matter very seriously. indeed at the time both republicans and democrats condemned the agency's actions. and as the senate committee with exclusive legislative and oversight jurisdiction over the irs, the finance committee launched a bipartisan investigation into the matter. n-our investigation was the most thorough and the only bipartisan investigation conducted with regard to this events. on august 5th of this year after more than two years of investigation, we released a 375-page bipartisan investi
following the decision to not press charges against former irs commissioner lois lerner the senate finance committee held a hearing with the current irs commissioner john koskinen to examine the practices after the scandal. this is about two hours. >> the committee will come to order. i want to thank those who are here today. in may 2013 the treasury inspector general for tax administration revealed that in the run-up to the 2012 and 2010 elections the irs targeted certain organizations...
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>> there should be criminal ramification. >> what has that changed by lois lerner leaving?> was symbolic. >> really nothing has changed. kennedy: tea party groups waiting for 6 years to find out whether they get the status. this is ridiculous. >> no doubt. kennedy: you know, i think -- >> you agree they should try to, impeach this creep. >> what do you imagine. >> what is going to change. kennedy: this is justice. >> please. kennedy: the satisfaction of vengeance. >> i am predicting 5 to 10 days from now, he will step down. >> great, nothing will change. kennedy: then abolish the irs. >> how do you do it. >> repeal the constitutional amendment. kennedy: that takes so much work, minnesota will never do it. the panel returns to talk about rand paul, has he thrown caution to the wind, gone full libertarian, bernie is going to love this. and boots on the ground in syr syria. looking for 24/7 digestive support? try align for a non-stop, sweet-treat-goodness hold-onto-your-tiara, kind-of-day. live 24/7 with 24/7 digestive support. try align, the undisputed #1 ge recommended probi
>> there should be criminal ramification. >> what has that changed by lois lerner leaving?> was symbolic. >> really nothing has changed. kennedy: tea party groups waiting for 6 years to find out whether they get the status. this is ridiculous. >> no doubt. kennedy: you know, i think -- >> you agree they should try to, impeach this creep. >> what do you imagine. >> what is going to change. kennedy: this is justice. >> please. kennedy: the...
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correspondent peter doocyy is here with more. >> the justice department does not think lois lerner should go to jail because the feds say out of more than 100 witnesses they interviewed, including some irs employee who is don't like lois lerner and some who identify themselves as conservative. no one ever accused her of having a political bias when decide chg groups deserved krutny and which did not. lerner apologized for the targeting and called it inappropriate in 2013. these findings come in a letter to democratic congressman john conyers, junior and republican congressman bob goodlatt. at every turn president obama and administration officials have undermined the investigation into irs targeting of conservative groups. today's announcement from the justice department is still very disturbing. this letter also includes an irs explanation about why conservative and tea party groups were getting so much unwanted attention from the tax man between 2009-2013. it's because there were just a lot of them. 70% of the 500 applications for tax-exempt status review belonged to right-leaning organ
correspondent peter doocyy is here with more. >> the justice department does not think lois lerner should go to jail because the feds say out of more than 100 witnesses they interviewed, including some irs employee who is don't like lois lerner and some who identify themselves as conservative. no one ever accused her of having a political bias when decide chg groups deserved krutny and which did not. lerner apologized for the targeting and called it inappropriate in 2013. these findings...
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correspondent peter doocyy is here with more. >> the justice department does not think lois lerner should go to jail because the feds say out of more than 100 witnesses they interviewed, including some irs employee who is don't like lois lerner and some who identify themselves as conservative. no one ever accused her of having a political bias when decide chg groups deserved krutny and which did not. lerner apologized for the targeting and called it inappropriate in 2013. these findings come in a letter to democratic congressman john conyers, junior and republican congressman bob goodlatt. at every turn president obama and administration officials have undermined the investigation into irs targeting of conservative groups. today's announcement from the justice department is still very disturbing. this letter also includes an irs explanation about why conservative and tea party groups were getting so much unwanted attention from the tax man between 2009-2013. it's because there were just a lot of them. 70% of the 500 applications for tax-exempt status review belonged to right-leaning organ
correspondent peter doocyy is here with more. >> the justice department does not think lois lerner should go to jail because the feds say out of more than 100 witnesses they interviewed, including some irs employee who is don't like lois lerner and some who identify themselves as conservative. no one ever accused her of having a political bias when decide chg groups deserved krutny and which did not. lerner apologized for the targeting and called it inappropriate in 2013. these findings...
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how did lois lerner get off in the first place? don't we know she targeted these groups?re evidence showing she started these groups? >> we had investigations by the inspector general that said there's indeed targeting. we know that for a fact. we have well documented that those documents in the possession of the irs were destroyed by irs. >> so we know they targeted the irs, they destroyed evidence and the just department says no go. is this a precursor of or a preview of coming attractions if the fbi were to find information about benghazi, about the clinton foundation or confidential top secret information on the deleted e-mails? does it mean it's politicized to that degree? >> sean, we have all kinds of confidence in the fbi. what we don't have confidence in is the justice department. jason's right. there's all kinds of e-mail evidence where she said the tea party is dangerous. where she says we're going to start a c-4 project next year we have to make sure it's not political. we have to make sure to hide the fact. yet, this justice department said no, it's prosecutin
how did lois lerner get off in the first place? don't we know she targeted these groups?re evidence showing she started these groups? >> we had investigations by the inspector general that said there's indeed targeting. we know that for a fact. we have well documented that those documents in the possession of the irs were destroyed by irs. >> so we know they targeted the irs, they destroyed evidence and the just department says no go. is this a precursor of or a preview of coming...
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>> i think there's a natural feeling on the part of republicans in the house that lois lerner got awayith murder not literally but figuratively. the case for prosecuting her for abuse of power, for targeting people to exercise the powers of the government. deirdre: a hand slap. >> right, on the basis of political views is a strong one and the obama administration was reluctant to pursue it. because this happened under john koskinen's watch, nominated by the president, confirmed by the senate, impeachment is appropriate route. there are little legal guidelines, no judge involved. if the house votes to impeach, there will be a trial in the senate whether he wants it or not. >> i was going to say legally this is entirely possible, ten out of ten? >> absolutely. the house has already prepared impeachment resolutions. they are professionally prepared and there is evidence to support all of them. it takes a simple majority vote in the house which they have among republicans, it then goes to the senate. the senate can hold a full-blown trial with the chief justice presiding as it did for pres
>> i think there's a natural feeling on the part of republicans in the house that lois lerner got awayith murder not literally but figuratively. the case for prosecuting her for abuse of power, for targeting people to exercise the powers of the government. deirdre: a hand slap. >> right, on the basis of political views is a strong one and the obama administration was reluctant to pursue it. because this happened under john koskinen's watch, nominated by the president, confirmed by...
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was driving a dark colored four door vehicle no charges will be filed against former irs official lois lerner... federal prosecutors announcing their decision in a letter to congress today. lerner was at the center of a firestorm after an inspector general's audit showed irs agents improperly singled out tea party and other conservative groups which applied for tax- exempte status in the 2010 and 2012 elections. decision 2016 coverage... another democratic candidate is dropping out of the race for president... "but after much thought, i have heard from the audience). thank you." former maryland governor lincoln chaffee ends his campaign this morning. this announcement comes just days after fellow canddiate jim webb dropped from the democratic side, and an joe biden saying he will not run for the highest office. among the other democratic candidates... hillary clinton regains her lead over bernie sanders in iowa.. the quinnipiac university poll released this morning shows that clinton's holding 51 percent of likely iowa caucus goers -- an eleven point lead over her closest competitor, bernie s
was driving a dark colored four door vehicle no charges will be filed against former irs official lois lerner... federal prosecutors announcing their decision in a letter to congress today. lerner was at the center of a firestorm after an inspector general's audit showed irs agents improperly singled out tea party and other conservative groups which applied for tax- exempte status in the 2010 and 2012 elections. decision 2016 coverage... another democratic candidate is dropping out of the race...
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he's impeded the investigation for months he kept information about lois lerner's e-mails away from congressve been fired by president obama. since he's the president's lap dog the president won't do it. that's why we have impeachment in the constitution. congress needs to act. >> bill, go ahead. >> we should use the high crimes and misdemeanor trials for people who can't be fired like a judge or the president himself. if mike doesn't like the way the president is running the irs, vote republicanle in the next election. >> there are so many individual s of people who can get around the legal process and withhold stuff. isn't it time to put your foot down and make a case of it. >> this is why the approval ratings are in there and why republicans are mad at it. they don't know how to operate the power of the purse. when governmentings agencies, especially the irs engages in criminal actions. it goes before congress and flips them el the bird. they have to take severe action. obama won't do it. >> this hasn't happened in a while. >> 1876 was the last time. in this case it was the secretary of w
he's impeded the investigation for months he kept information about lois lerner's e-mails away from congressve been fired by president obama. since he's the president's lap dog the president won't do it. that's why we have impeachment in the constitution. congress needs to act. >> bill, go ahead. >> we should use the high crimes and misdemeanor trials for people who can't be fired like a judge or the president himself. if mike doesn't like the way the president is running the irs,...
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that was over lois lerner's missing emails. the the koskinen says we have fullly cooperated with all the investigations. jay, welcome back to "america's newsroom." jason chaffetz says documents were december troifd on his watch. the public was misled. impeachment is the appropriate tool top restore public confidence in the irs and protect the institutional interests of congress. >> they said there were some poor management decisions. there are emails where they are talking about piecing together criminal cases against people exercising their first amendment rights. comes ski then came in. he was supposed to clean up the mess. instead documents that were said to be missing were actually recovered. the reality is you can't go before congress and not tell the truth. that's what happened here. the idea that the irs institutional credibility is being restored. the fact of the matter is the internal revenue service is incapable of self-correcting. this irs commissioner, maybe he had good intentions in the beginning but he got caught
that was over lois lerner's missing emails. the the koskinen says we have fullly cooperated with all the investigations. jay, welcome back to "america's newsroom." jason chaffetz says documents were december troifd on his watch. the public was misled. impeachment is the appropriate tool top restore public confidence in the irs and protect the institutional interests of congress. >> they said there were some poor management decisions. there are emails where they are talking about...
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exirs official lois lerner that's next.s, the longest, most powerful hurricane, the strongest most powerful hurricane making landfall in mexico. "on the record" is tracking the dangerous storm. jeb bush: this president, with all due respect, believes that america's leadership and presence in the world is not a force for good. america has led the world and it is a more peaceful world when we're engaged the right way. we do not have to be the world's policeman. we have to be the world's leader. we have to stand for the values of freedom. who's going to take care of the christians that are being eliminated in the middle east? but for the united states, who? who's going to stand up for the dissidents inside of iran that are brutalized each and every day? but for the united states, who? who's going to take care of israel and support them - our greatest ally in the middle east? but for the united states, no one - no one is capable of doing this. the united states has the capability of doing this, and it's in our economic and nati
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the justice department on friday announced it is going to bring no charges against lois lerner or anyone at the irs. they say they found evidence of mismanagement, evidence of bad judgment, but no crime. >> yeah, that is just flat out wrong, in my judgment. here's a lady who systematically and for a sustained period of time targeted people for exercising their most fundamental rights. the president prejudged this case. remember the facts here. e president ssd, there's no corruption here, not even a smidgen. the chief investigator, the chief lawyer assigned to the justice department to evaluate this was a maxed out contributor to the president's campaign. it shouldn't be any surprise. the justice department said there's nothing wrong here. >> let me ask you quickly, is there anything you can do about it? >> unfortunately, i don't think. we got lororta lynch coming in front of the judiciary committee. i plan on asking her serious questions and hopefully toug questions about w they -- this investigation went and who they actually talked to. what happened in this investigation. and why they
the justice department on friday announced it is going to bring no charges against lois lerner or anyone at the irs. they say they found evidence of mismanagement, evidence of bad judgment, but no crime. >> yeah, that is just flat out wrong, in my judgment. here's a lady who systematically and for a sustained period of time targeted people for exercising their most fundamental rights. the president prejudged this case. remember the facts here. e president ssd, there's no corruption here,...
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when i think all the facts point to someone was involved in criminal activity and i think it was lois lerner. >> congressman jordan thank you. thank you for joining us. always a pleasure to talk to you. >> you bet, thanks, chris. >>> when we return our sunday group weighs in on benghazi. plus what do you think? what did we learn from clinton's testimony? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday. and use the #fns. ma >>> you know a lot of things have been said about me, but quitter is not one of them. >> hillary clinton taking a victory lap on the campaign trail, after her 11-hour appearance before the house benghazi committee. and we're back now with the panel. michael, clinton and her supporters say that the committee republicans basically didn't lay a hand on her during those 11 hours. are they right? >> look, there was obviously no great historic, made for tv moment that came out of it. i don't think that was the goal. trey gowdy is a great prosecutor. he's trying to conduct an investigation and get answers to questions i think the american people need and deserve if we're going
when i think all the facts point to someone was involved in criminal activity and i think it was lois lerner. >> congressman jordan thank you. thank you for joining us. always a pleasure to talk to you. >> you bet, thanks, chris. >>> when we return our sunday group weighs in on benghazi. plus what do you think? what did we learn from clinton's testimony? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday. and use the #fns. ma >>> you know a lot of things have been...
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lois lerner, . . . the woman at the center of the i-r-s scandal targeting certain non-profit and jewish groups, . . . used several aliases for her emails. including one named after her dog. me senior i-r-s officials used an instant messagigi system - similar to snapchat - that automatically deletes texts moments after they're read. no one's doing this unless they have something to hide. there should be criminal consequences for federal officials who knowingly conceal email correspondence from legal scrutiny. to comment, go to behind the i'm mark hyman. larry>> thanks for watching siouxland news week ... be sure to join us again tomorrow night at 5, 9 and 10. you can also follow us on facebook, twitter, instagram and our website siouxland news dot com ... where you'll find the latest news, weather and sports. that's all our time for now ... we'll see you tomorrow... and we've got t special surprise you won't want to miss. we'll see you then! >> announcer: the following is a paid presentation for drew and danny's real estate strategies, brought to you by visionary events, llc. if you're l
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when i think all the facts point to someone was involved in criminal activity and i think it was lois lerner>> congressman jordan thank you. thank you for joining us. always a pleasure to talk to you. >> you bet, thanks, chris. >>> when we return our sunday group weighs in on benghazi. plus what do you think? what did we learn from clinton's testimony? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday. and use the #fns. mary ellen, and i quit smoking with chantix. i have smoked for thirty years and by taking chantix, i was able to quit in three months. and that was amazing. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it absolutely reduced my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've
when i think all the facts point to someone was involved in criminal activity and i think it was lois lerner>> congressman jordan thank you. thank you for joining us. always a pleasure to talk to you. >> you bet, thanks, chris. >>> when we return our sunday group weighs in on benghazi. plus what do you think? what did we learn from clinton's testimony? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday. and use the #fns. mary ellen, and i quit smoking with chantix. i have...
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and what procedures does the irs have in place presently to ensure what happened with lois lerner's e-mailsoes not happen in the meantime? >> we're almost there. as i noted, our goal is to in fact not depend upon hard drives and individual computers. not to depend on disaster recover tapes as a backup system, but to upgrade it to what everybody else is using so that we not only have a backup system separate from the e-mail systems, but one that is easily searchable and readily searchable. as noted, we've got a plan that we've worked with nara. by the end of next year, we hope not only to beat the capstone issues, but to be moving with limited resources to updating our e-mail systems. >> senator scott is next. >> thank you, ranking member. good morning. >> good morning. >> earlier, senator wyden asked you a question about the most consequential changes you made at the irs. i think your answer is your employees can now e-mail you in a new special e-mail box that was just created. that was the most consequential thing you've done based on the report? >> i think what i said the most consequenti
and what procedures does the irs have in place presently to ensure what happened with lois lerner's e-mailsoes not happen in the meantime? >> we're almost there. as i noted, our goal is to in fact not depend upon hard drives and individual computers. not to depend on disaster recover tapes as a backup system, but to upgrade it to what everybody else is using so that we not only have a backup system separate from the e-mail systems, but one that is easily searchable and readily searchable....
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it was lois lerner's that slowed the applications for tax exemptions.nd congress willal committees investigated learner. republicans said they stone walled inquiries. >> we are really left with no alternative. the inspector general did an exhaustive search and looked at this. we have dually issued subpeonas and despite that the irs commissioner came before congress and the information he provided to congress and the testimony he gave is false. there are consequences. >> testifying before the senate finance committee, he acknowledged that the irs made mistakes and insuring they will never repeat them. of the impeachment resolution the irs claimed that the agency fully cooperated with all congressional investigations and jumping to koskines defense the democrat said there is 0 evidence. the irs spent 20 million and employee hours cooperating with a misguyeded investigation with no evidence of political targeting. from here the full oversight committee will send it to the full house for debate. >> rich, thank you. >> the pentagon hands out the biggest cont
it was lois lerner's that slowed the applications for tax exemptions.nd congress willal committees investigated learner. republicans said they stone walled inquiries. >> we are really left with no alternative. the inspector general did an exhaustive search and looked at this. we have dually issued subpeonas and despite that the irs commissioner came before congress and the information he provided to congress and the testimony he gave is false. there are consequences. >> testifying...
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stuart: did lois lerner admit to this?tired with full benefits. this was about accountability. people were asking members of the committee who has been held accountable. listen to this exchange. >> anybody involved in this fired, fine, reprimanded, denied a bonus, slab on the wrist or talk to and stern manner? you are saying everything is fine, it is not fine. it is not the problem of political targeting but the recommendations you make a recommendations we are implementing, we need to have a better operation to ensure it doesn't happen. gerri: later in the hearing john koskinen said people in the chain of command on those decisions none of them are working at the irs anymore but where they fired? he would not say. we know lois lerner retired with full benefits, she has her pension, she is retired, working, has everything she was promised by the irs. stuart: no criminal charges will be leveled. what is this about the union? the irs workers, half of them are unionized. gerri: heavily unionized. senator orrin hatch asking to
stuart: did lois lerner admit to this?tired with full benefits. this was about accountability. people were asking members of the committee who has been held accountable. listen to this exchange. >> anybody involved in this fired, fine, reprimanded, denied a bonus, slab on the wrist or talk to and stern manner? you are saying everything is fine, it is not fine. it is not the problem of political targeting but the recommendations you make a recommendations we are implementing, we need to...
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he didn't tell congress until june 13th when lois lerner's e-mails were missing as early as february months to do that he talked about how the irs went to great lengths to retrieve for lost e-mails, her blackberry, laptop, e-mail server, at treasury inspector general did his own search. 1,000 new e-mails turned the been two weeks. there is a lot of mismanagement going on. sandra: it doesn't help the public perception, people don't trust the government right now. and they are not happy with it and when you see this playing out in the news it doesn't tell. >> sounds like it should be happening in russia. when i moved to this country i did not think the rule of law would have this kind of relevance which is not a lot. you get rid of 422 tapes out right and to the point of the sound bite that is a basic point. what if any of us it did that men we would be up the creek with a wrong paddle. dagen: i don't want to say this kind of malfeasance in another agency is excusable but when it comes to the irs given the irs's power to essentially freeze your bank account if they want to, to investig
he didn't tell congress until june 13th when lois lerner's e-mails were missing as early as february months to do that he talked about how the irs went to great lengths to retrieve for lost e-mails, her blackberry, laptop, e-mail server, at treasury inspector general did his own search. 1,000 new e-mails turned the been two weeks. there is a lot of mismanagement going on. sandra: it doesn't help the public perception, people don't trust the government right now. and they are not happy with it...