620 jones, lounge and the neighbors and the hotel, they have noise, patrons, traffic, music, and loitering concerns, and so i contacted the manager, over at jones and kind of went over the different points and the different issues, and we agreed with and some of the things that they did not agree with and i have been out on that block and it has been very loud but i can't say that it has contributed completely to jones but we have several clubs in the area and so when we look at a complaint like this, we kind of try to see what can the club do better? and you know, maybe there are other clubs in the area that we have to look at also and then just part of it is dealing with the over all population that is on the street. in that area. and it is one only with jordan and we, attempted basically working with the things that we talked about and it was some and talking about the proper signage and lighting, and security staff, and he was, asking about what do you do when you are asking the patron to leave the area, that are loitering? and that is when we said it if you have a security staff that

. >> i want to find out why there is a loitering sign there. you guys are loitering. >> citizens like to see the police. >> district 5 covers the eastern one-third of the city but sees two-thirds of the violent crime. that's why five of opds six teams are hear protecting and serving under captain coleman. >> i see a lot of major players in this area. but a lot of times we have to get to know who we don't know. a lot of times it's folks we don't know involved. >> the captain tells me district 5 is made up of many small gangs controlling a few small blocks. fights can start over turf wars, drugs, or simple disrespect, leaving the majority law-abide citizens feeling trapped in fear. >> ain't nobody safe. i'm too old to be running and dodging bullets. you have to be safe out here. >> i appreciate it. you, too. >> the scene of last night's shootings, covered with cop cars, this may be the safest intersection in oakland, at least for now. >> reporter: murders in oakland are down. 84 so far this year compared to 108 this time last year. if you know an

we know there is an impact of having - i haven't seen there's loitering or funds for public safety. i firmly believe this proposal there would be a significantly more talk about this. alley i know that many of the neighbors are ready to have a discussion about the homeless population. my inability is not about being homeless. i think we have have a citywide conversation in how to provide better services across the city so all of san francisco, california shoulder the responsibility of serving others (clapping.) also, we need to have a conversation citywide about the involvement of neighbors and advocates should be at the table but that conversation isn't happening and the cities secured the funds there's no flexibility to discuss alternative locations because the process the city conducted that's why i'm here today. colleagues, you know, because of this issue i've articulated earlier and despite the specific nature of the grant i ask you not support in item. you can hear the passion in my voice i support this item (clapping) so the neighbors >> excuse me. excuse me. everybody we hav

folks outside smoking but we don't allow folks whether their sheltered or non-sheltered resident to loiter and congrats outside there's gary and polk street >> both of those two shelters have 3 hundred or 4 hundred people. >> i think there are 480 and a 380. >> so the star community home that's run by catholic community is smaller but it helps people to hopefully get back on their feet in an area that's normal listing for mothers and children but it's not good to chairs people far away. you try the best you can too make sure that the businesses and neighbors around is it are not obeying being negatively impacted >> that's true. >> okay. colleagues any questions. >> any other presentation? i have one but we can if there's niagara nothing to add move to public comment. >> i have a number of speaker cards i'll call them 5 at that time. everyone will have 2 minutes to speak (calling names) >> thank you supervisors. for having this hearing. public comment and some of the things that supervisor cowen said. number one i was the one that went to trent because our clients that sit up in chairs all

folks outside smoking but we don't allow folks whether their sheltered or non-sheltered resident to loiter and congrats outside there's gary and polk street >> both of those two shelters have 3 hundred or 4 hundred people. >> i think there are 480 and a 380. >> so the star community home that's run by catholic community is smaller but it helps people to hopefully get back on their feet in an area that's normal listing for mothers and children but it's not good to chairs people far away. you try the best you can too

reporter: instead council member laura says the new ban on aggressive panhandling targets people loitering outside grocery stores and other businesses asking for money. >> it borders on harassment in some cases. >> reporter: the city staff report says two problem areas are on the food max on clayton road and a safeway on willow pass road. overall in the past year, the police department said it received almost 2,000 calls regarding the homeless and 20% involved some sort of aggressive panhandling complaint. the new ban will mirror similar ordinances adopted in other cities. >> this gets into someone's personal space. if someone comes within three feet of you and follows you in the parking lot asking you to help to take your groceries out for a dollar or whatever it is and they keep going and doing that, that's what this is really after. the people that are aggressive and they are approaching you and basically getting in your face, getinginto your personal space. >> reporter: aggressive panhandling will also be banned anywhere within 50 feet of atms, 30 feet from bus stops, restaurants and c

like loitering or vandalism. residents seem pleased to see more blew on their penalt block. but some take issue with police tactics. >> you can't ride bikes out here without lights or something like that. and nobody was used to that. >> i was on a bike without a light and i got a ticket for riding without a helmet and on the sidewalk. >> you think the new police are too strict. >> i moved out because my son was born. i started to come back around here and i saw all cops and the presence and mainly in the daytime and they seemed nice and everything. hi don't see much people in the corners and things like that. the presence was good and then after two weeks of me living in here they are just harassing hag people. >> really. >> yeah they are just harassing people. just because a kid is a tee teer and he is on a corner doesn't mean he is selling drugs. he could be waiting for somebody or he could be lost. ask him nicely why are you on the corner? if he is smart with you it's different. but if the kid is not smart with you why get violent with the kid. >> it's friday night and se

and merchants feel these businesses are an intrusion into family neighborhood and they increase loitering, public smoking and other quality of life problems we are dealing with. marijuana smokes contains many of the chemicals as tobacco smoke including cyanide. i don't believe the public was sufficiently warned about these risks or current anti smoking laws are being enforced. we have a large number of schoolings and senior centers and these populations should be considered when determining what types of businesses are good for the area. i think it's good to diss distribute mcd's throughout the cities i am in favor of the legislation. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hi, thank you. i'm brian webster. i am the chief of staff at the institute of workers center. i'm here as the spur union representative for local five, united food workers division, medical cannabis division. we have 32,000 members in the bay area and here in san francisco mission organic center in district 11. we had spoken earlier before the meeting, supervisor avalos, and pretty much agreed to disagree on t

looking at my desk my thinking is and it's just crazy how much it is surging say as you say it's loitering around that nine hundred market and whatever your opinion is whether you're a fan of the big cuomo do you think it's free from central bank manipulation or whether you think that it's to do with money laundering the the numbers speak for themselves i think today that that's sure to say and when you look back over time we can see how much quien has really gone up in bodies in twenty eleven it was valued at two dollars thirty eight twenty twelve eleven eighty now as you say nine hundred so if we count. we're going to be kicking ourselves in a minute because twenty eleven if you invested a thousand dollars into the bit coy now have three hundred eighty thousand u.s. dollars join the way if we go back a year a thousand dollars you would have seventy six thousand dollars in your bank account so those people that did criticize a bit coy today i should imagine there's lots of human cells going on underneath those. people believe. go china i wanted to mention actually because we know that the

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this store has been robbed 60 -- six times in the last two years and believes he does not allow loitering in front of his business. at today's other top stories. police are looking for a man wanted for rape and robbery. a woman was at an atm when the man approached her and put a possible weapon to her back and demanded money. he had forced her into an alley and raped her. in july, a similar attack took place within blocks of this latest crime. >> a man has been charged with fraud after prosecutors say he was caught on video faking a fall at a metro station. maurice owens what a banana peel on the floor of the metro avenue station and slipped on it allegedly and fell. he sued metro for $15,000. he is set to appear in court next week. >> a busy day in the sky and on the road as travelers had to their thanksgiving destinations. bad weather is slowing down trips were some families. the impact is not as bad as some travelers feared. well some people travel tonight others are hitting the grocery store for last minute shopping blitz. what the stores are doing to help out the thanksgiving procras

. >>> finally, a cultured solution to loitering.oung people, courtesy of a mcdonald's in australia, a restaurant has started playing classical music and opera late at night. media reports say so far the results have been positive. the store's operations manager says fewer young people are hanging around late at night. social media is not sold on the idea with some locals claiming the muse sick a little too loud. but others say it might just bring a bit of class to the area. >>> now back to afghanistan. another curveball from president hamid karzai and pushback from susan rice, which all could impact whether any u.s. troops will stay in afghanistan after 2014. national security correspondent jennifer griffin reports tonight from the pentagon. >> reporter: national security adviser susan rice told president hamid karzai if he did not sign a security agreement promptly, the u.s. would have no choice but to pull all u.s. and nato troops out by the end of 2014. karzai rebuffed 2500 tribal elders who debated for four days. the group agree

he's accused of loitering, prowling and peeking into windows. carillo has issued a special apology and saying he is being treated for a bing drinking problem. his arraignment is schedule for tomorrow. >>> the obama association is tapping into silican talent to fix the problems with health care.com. the center for medicare and medicaid services says the high tech manpower will help solve issues to handle large scale operations. the government is promising that the site will be running properly by the end of next month. >>> our connective world is getting even more connected. now the faa is allowing passengers to use electronic devices. travelers had a universal reaction tonight. it's about time. deborah. >> reporter: it's a rule that frustrating passengers and some shrug at it. several passengers left their cell phone on when it was supposed to be off. but soon it won't matter anymore. >> when you can get diamonds and stuff. >> reporter: mind craft on his i pad mini kept robert entertained flying five hours today. >> it occupies his time really w

he's accused of loitering, prowling and peeking into windows. carillo has issued a special apology and saying he is being treated for a bing drinking problem. his arraignment is schedule for tomorrow. >>> the obama association is tapping into silican talent to fix the problems with health care.com. the center for medicare and medicaid services says the high tech manpower will help solve issues to handle large scale operations. the government is promising that the site will be running properly by the end of next month. >>> our connective world is getting even more connected. now the faa is allowing passengers to use electronic devices. travelers had a universal reaction tonight. it's about time. deborah. >> reporter: it's a rule that frustrating passengers and some shrug at it. several passengers left their cell phone on when it was supposed to be off. but soon it won't matter anymore. >> when you can get diamonds and stuff. >> reporter: mind craft on his i pad mini kept robert entertained flying five hours today. >> it occupies his time really w

so they started playing opera and guess what, no more loitering. everybody went away. if you're mcdonald's. an interesting point. thank you for that. bob. >> on a little more serious note, afghan anies and united states have been trying to get an agreement what the united states responsibility will be in afghanistan after 2014.have bee agreement what the united states responsibility will be in afghanistan after 2014. of course mr. cakarzai will tur it over to the chief warlords if their approval. at some point, you people out to just say thank you. we're tired of being told what to to by a bunch of warlords.gh to just say thank you. we're tired of being told what to to by a bunch of warlords. >> that guy has probably become a billionaire off our -- >> sure. >>do by a bunch of warlords. >> that guy has probably become a billionaire off our -- >> sure. >> these are the nontamnontalib warlo warlords. >> take one minute to say congratulations to my son, eric. check it out. >> i can't believe this. >> chemistry a, geometry a, u.s. history a, english a, we'll work on the spa

during the day it is much of the same as far as them loitering. but the city want this is park to thrive. one city leader wants it also to be welcoming to families. it is reported a san jose councilman wants a band pavilion installed with a line- up of concerts at the park. he wants to team up with levitte pavilion in southern california for the project. it is reported it would cost $2.5 million to build, which levitte would contribute $400,000. music in the park has been held at st. james park in the last year, attracting in many the community, but st. james park has also been a magnet for the homeless population. it is an area known for crime. a man was shot and killed here in the park in august and last year there were stabbings in the park with one resulting in homicide. an online petition is started to support the idea. the prose will be presented at the city council rule's committee later this month. reporting live from san jose, ktvu fox 2 news. >>> happening today the largest casino in the state opening in rohnert park. it features 3,000 s

like loitering or vandalism. residents seem pleased to see more blew on their penalt block. but some take issue with police tactics. >> you can't ride bikes out here without lights or something like that. and nobody was used to that. >> i was on a bike without a light and i got a ticket for riding without a helmet and on the sidewalk. >> you think the new police are too strict. >> i moved out because my son was born. i started to come back around here and i saw all cops and the presence and mainly in the daytime and they seemed nice and everything. hi don't see much people in the corners and things like that. the presence was good and then after two weeks of me living in here they are just harassing hag people. >> really. >> yeah they are just harassing people. just because a kid is a tee teer and he is on a corner doesn't mean he is selling drugs. he could be waiting for somebody or he could be lost. ask him nicely why are you on the corner? if he is smart with you it's different. but if the kid is not smart with you why get violent with the kid. >> it's friday night and se

be uh with so much grid lock, they have been threatening to loiter vote to 51, and he took the firsttep. towards that goal, by changing the votes needed to stop filibusters for presidential nominations. >> terrific. that is a terrific walk through history. >> randall, thank you. >> well done. >> afghan president says he doesn't trust the united states, but he is willing to let american troops -- urged tribal leaders to approve a deal that will allow forces to stay for another decade, but even if the leaders say yes, sir, karzai says he won't sign the treatment, just yet. now from the white house with reaction to his move to the latest signing the bill. why would he want to wait on this? how does it benefit him or his country? >> well, if you ask some people around here, or up on capitol hill, they look at it at another thumb into the united states eye, one in a series over the last several years. the longest war in american history being fought on afghan seal. it is how that war is prosecuted as the united states and afghanistan try to come to an agreement on what the status of force

aggressive panhandling targets people loitering outside faugof grocery stores and other businesses.e city council will hold a second and final vote on the ordinance on december 10th. if adopted, the ordinance would go into effect in january. >>darya: it's no secret that rental prices and san francisco are ridiculously expensive. now, the city can take the title of having the highest median rent among the nation's largest cities. according to the u.s. census bureau san francisco beat out new york with a median rental price of $1,463. the second-highest median rent went to san jose with $1,441. we're chris paid a median of $1,187. the report comes and a major increase concerns about high cost of living and san francisco potentially displacing or income residents through increased rents and evictions. >>james: new this morning. it looks like snap chat isn't coming to facebook any time soon. there are multiple reports that the social media giant offered 3 billion in cash to purchase the popular smart on video app. but ellie based company said no. snap chat allows users to send videos an

we've seen a lot of homeless people hanging out here, sleeping and loitering.rby residents tell us that drugs are often used here at the park. lakarda wants to clean up the image and conduct a bandstand or pavilion with a lineup of free concerts at the park. he would like to team up with levette pavilion based out of southern california for this project. the venue would cost about $2.5 million to build which levette could contribute $400,000. music in the park has been held at st. james in the past year attracting many in the community but some locals say they mostly avoid st. james park because it's frequented by the homeless. we asked one resident if he was concerned about the noise this would generate. >> yeah, it gets loud when they have their park parties here. but it's every once in a while. we can grin and bear it. it's not that big of a deal. if it will make the community better, all for it. >> reporter: this park has been a magnet for crime. a man was shot and killed near the park in august. last year, there were stabbings in the park with one resultin

but critics say it's become a center for gambling, drug use, underage drinking and loitering.ilding their case against net stop but the process has been slow and difficult. >>> starting today, families on food stamps here in the bay area will be feeling the effect of new budget cuts. 47million americans rely on food stamps every month. an increase in benefits from the 2009 stimulus package, it has expired. a quarter of a million people in the bay area will be affected by this. a family of four would get $632 in food stamps, which is $36 less a month. 62,000 families in alameda county, and an additional 31,000 in santa clara county are on food stamps. >>> lays is expected to announce its newest potato chip and we have a photo of the wavy potato chip dipped in milk chocolate bag. the sweet and salty snack is expected on store shelves a week from today. it will be available only from target stores and just through the holidays, but insiders say if the flavor mash up proves popular, lays could make it a permanent addition to the lineup. companies say they might try other flavor co