personally would like to know what's coming, i have no idea myself so i will turn it over to johan and loli's first, does everybody think the economy in the u.s. has turned around and moving back up? maybe we could move our hands. does everybody think that? of view here does anybody think we may be in for another big fall before we go up again? more. okay. weld, johan, what do you think? >> summer in between. [laughter] >> fess not a good answer. >> well, it's the beginning of an answer. i honestly think the worst is over but i don't think you'll see a rebound of the u.s. economy in terms of 4% annual growth before 1910 -- into 2010 and so everything that has been happening there is so much support pump into the economy, first of all, by the federal reserve and by now also was sent the fiscal authority is that it is hard to imagine that the economy would go on crumbling and i think a lot of the recent data show that, indeed, the crumbling of the economy as more or less adopt the process of being stalked, but i don't thank you will see a really strong rebound before mid next year. >> i should