and i just toed there -- stood there and finally and lolita and loris came up and held me and so on. well, in the third sunday in january, which is martin luther king sunday, we will have eric williams, who is with the smithsonian institutes african american museum and i will present to him the howard thurman rope robe. >> wow. >> i've had it all that time. only one other person that have wornthat's my cominimumser to katherine benton but it's about therein and it's a little fragile and i thought that in might be an inspiration. i was contacted by them about , yes. so, we the robe of dr. fisk, the cofounder of the church. >> cofounder. >> yes. so we will be giving both of th the robe of dr. thurman and robe of dr. fisk. >> that's wonderful and a wonderful museum. we can't go without mention the 139th psalms why did he love that so much. >> because it's so intimate. er is he of me and know me and know my down setting and uprising by understanding. the compass is my path. is that kind of the walk the walk with what he called the overbathing presence. and he talkout light >> both alik.

lolita lebron who was still in prison at the time. amy: the puerto rican independence activist. angela: yeah. so we immediately began to do ththat work. and i mention it because oftentimes we don't get to see the history, the trajectory that makes it possible to engage in certain kinds of political actions, 20, 30, 40 years later. and so i think that we were helping to lay the foundation for movements against racist police violence today. as a a matter of facact, we had a caucus whin ththe organizazatn that was very specifically concerned with stopping police violence.e. amy: 47 years ago, george jackson was killed. and on the 47th anniversary, this year, 2018, the prison strike lasted three weeks from the gunning down of george jackson to the attica uprising. and prisoners around the country once again in this year rose up. at great possibility of retribution against them. went on hunger strike. wewent on work strikes. angela: yeah. that national prisoners strike was so important. we often don't recognize the degree to w which the historical memory that i was talking about bebe