so i'm lolly. >> and when i decided on lolly, my lous said, okay then, i'm pop. and we're lollipop.t's terrible, right. >> isn't that cute. >> it's so cute, but that's what we are. >> i love '. >> and little kids from the beginning they don't get it. >> right. >> and i remember whenthy older granddaughter who's now six got it, ways there, she but the it together, oh. >> that is cute i think part of mine is cultural, the black experience. so my maternal grandmother we called her big mama. >> i like that. >> little mama and big mama. so my grandmother was big mama. my paternal grandmother we called her mother adele, so mother a dell and big mama by never used the term grandma or grandpa in my life. >> about but did you call her big mama. >> yeah. >> i like that. where were you when i was trying to -- that's really good. >> that's not nearly as cute as lollipop. >> but it's better. >> up win as always. let me ask, i don't know if there's an answer to this. let me ask and is that is whether or not having grandkids as in any way impacted your work, the way you see your work, the way you

lolly is the ceo of the leadership executive coaching firm. is author of the book, "the leadership gap." what gets between you and your greatness. >> great to be here, j.j. >> this is everything. leadership is everything. so, i want to get down to your points about how you become a good leader. one is lead by example. i think so many people forget. >> absolutely. what does it mean to lead by example? a leader, if they want to be respected, if they want to be trusted, if they want their clients and their employees to be loyal, a leader needs to lead by example chltd they have to trust their employees to do their job well. they have to respect their employees in order to respect them for their talent and their skills. don't micromanage them. allow them to do their job. be loyal. if they mess up, have their back. a leader needs to lead by example in order to be trusted, respected and have loyalty given to them. >> i think they need to write down, here is how i want my managers to lead their team. you can see it in other people, often. think, okay

thank you so much, lolly.e really appreciate all this. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, advice for women entrepreneurs that want to succeed in a male-dominated industry. >>> and looking for a place to hang out with rover? today's updated picture and her four-legged friend has an app for that. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. >>> as a minority female recovering corporate executive what would you recommend for those of us now in the start-up world, particularly in a financial services technology industry to succeed in a very male-dominated environment? >> as a minority in a male-dominated industry, i don't have to tell you to work hard, i don't have to tell you to work long. in my opinion you already learned those lessons in the process of getting to where you

. >> the other thing i learned, salt water taffy and lolly-pop is. >> lolly-pop is only 20 to 30 degrees if we cook longer, hotter it will have a consistency. >> that is awesome. >> that is other thing, you guys want people to know, certainly you are known for your fudge, salt water taffy but you are making candy thing happen all over, it is not just those. >> we make macaroons, chocolates we have a variety of candy, old fashion candy, different varieties of chocolates and nuts. >> these are the fudge or fudge. i don't know proper grammar. what is the number one selling fudge all summer long. >> vanilla and check late are the best. then right after that i think, one of the peanut butter cups, some of the new flavors like the chocolate sea salt. >> yes. >> pretty popular. sea salties hot right now. >> sometimes you guys are so pack it is hard to get back here. you have traditional, 1 pound boxes. everyone seen. that great gift. this is like amazing, so thinks mixing area. >> this is pick and mix. you can go around the table and pick a variety of flavors. we don't have everything out. we a

go to lolly in ohio. >> caller: hey, jim, how is it going. >> unreal. welcome. how you doing?er: doing already. i'm sitting here with my 14-year-old grand some. >> fabulous. >> caller: my question is, is it a good time to invest in serial companies such as kelloggs now that the kids are out of school. my grandson is tearing up the cereal. >> that's a great question. i've been eating smart start my father-in-law gave me. it is killer. my doctor wants me to have carbs in the morning, say it is good for my heart. here is the problem. you are counting on a take out, so while me, your grandson, but the problem is it doesn't have the kind of growth we want. you will get the wheel, wait for take over or maybe some sort of, again, reorganization. i would rather own growth even as we all -- the three of us think that there's a winning cereal out there. let's go to dan in connecticut. dan. >> caller: harks jim. i would like to give you a nice rainy connecticut boo-ya to you. >> indeed. okay. what's up? >> caller: i'm calling about a cramer, buffalo wild wings as they face a proxy vote l