and you know that they're really ancient and they'vve been around for a lolog time. but, man, they're just-- they're hanging on, you know, by the skin of their teeth all the time. narrator: in the past few decades, ravens have become one of the issues affecting the tortoise. berry: this little tortoise is about 6 to 8 years old. and we see that it's got a big hole in its back. lovich: ravens tend to peck through the shehell of small tortoises and then eviscerate them. and we do know that the raven is an important predator on young tortoises in some parts of the desert. narrator: ravens have become a pest worldwide largely because they've learned to get what they need from people. man: batter up. that's one away. narrator: this softball game might seem like an unusual place to find raravensbubut these bibs aren'n't just casual sports fan. they've figured out an important equation: a ball game means people and people mean food. once the game is over, they'll move in to pick over whatever has been left behind. lovich: ravens are like coyotes and raccoons and some other