faye: well--well, it's interesting, and i think for a lolong time, w we've thought the needed to putnstraints on the poor for what they could use the money for... lee: mm. faye: and the reality is that popoverty itself puts constrains on the recipient. uh, if you're living in abject poverty on 65 cents a day, when you get a transfer of cash, your first thought is not, "how do i go have fun? which bar should i go to?" it's, "how w can i make my familyly's life betteter?" and even, "howow can i surveve?" lelee: right, right. well, tell me, thehen, michael, um, you know, you u guys havavee proof. you have the stories o ohow this works. give me some examples of how lives have been changed through this mechanism that you've created. faye: uh, there--there are examples of everything. there's, um, lots of recipients that have bought motorbikes to start taxi businesses. a recipient will use the money to send their kids to school. a fair number of recipients use it for the--the simplest of things that we take for granted, putting a roof on their heads, which not only obviously improves the di