many of the other thebs of -- members of lolsack were in the u.k.as based in the shetlands, very remote community of islands between scott lawn and norway and lived by himself in a small wooden house, just near the main town of lirwick in stehland. >> and jake davis was topiary. >> that's right. a few weeks later in july, after lolsack had ended, jake had a knock on his door and it was the police and phra*eupb clothed police officers had flown up from a jet in london and want to see everything on his laptop, he had to step away from his computer, they asked him for the pass wards to get -- passwords to get access to the hard drives on his computers and they gave -- and he gave them access and they questioned him and questioned him for the next four days. >> did he admit to being topiary at some point? >> he was very cooperative with the police, after they spoke to him -- i probably shouldn't say too much about that because in the u.k. i have to be careful about what i say, because there is a trial coming up and there's an issue of contempt of court,

going to see a lot more details coming out in court about what the police believe is happening with lolsack in the summer of 2011. it will be really interesting to see what comes out of that. >> so currently, these gentlemen -- and they were -- they're all men, correct? no women actually involved. >> that's right, yes. >> where are they? are they on house arrest, in jail? what's their status? >> they're on bail at the moment, except for ryan cleary, who broke his bail conditions. and again, you pay contempt of court i'm not allowed to discuss that in the u.k. but jake davis and ryan akro akroid are wearing electronic tags, which means they have a curfew, they're not allowed to be outside the house after 10:00 p.m. or before 7:00 a.m. arrested and is waiting to be sentenced. i heard he would be sentenced before the end of the year. but i am not clear on that. >> parmy olson, does anonymous in any way still exist. does lulzsec still exist? >> the worst of attempts to revive lulzsec although the main guys organizing it are definitely not on the internet any more. a few other guys from the anon