lomax for some time. he's not been radical recently. think that in his past, he has probably been a little more vocal and disorderly. >> and i moved away from all of that 'cause i did that, done that, been in lockup, been in lockup with status cases before. so i leave that all alone. >> we spent a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of resources on making sure we stay on top of all of our gang activity. there's always a new group being formed or in the process of being formed. there's always people coming together and wanting to have their control of their environment. and it's something you have to stay on top of and make it part of that balance. >>> next on "lockup" -- >> my crime is murder and i cannibalized during the process. >> crimes of the unspeakable. >> i just said, you got to eat some of her brains for her to become part of you. >>> while many prisoners at wabash have committed horrendous acts, both to others and to themselves, you're about to meet two men whose shocking crimes are simply beyond our description. we warn

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i was in the lomax a.m.e. church. it's a black church just outside of washington, d.c. and i read in the -- in the bulletin about teen-age pregnancies, about the difficulty that families are having to meet ends -- to make ends meet. i talk to parents. i mean, you've got to care. everybody cares if people aren't doing well. but i don't think -- i don't think it's fair to say, you haven't had cancer, therefore you don't know what it's like. i don't think it's fair to say, you know, whatever it is, that if you haven't been hit by it personally -- but everybody's affected by the debt because of the tremendous interest that goes into paying on that debt, everything's more expensive. everything comes out of your pocket and my pocket. so it's, it's sad, but i think in terms of the recession, of course you feel it when you're president of the united states. and that's why i'm trying to do something about it by stimulating the exports, investing more, better education system. thank you. i'm glad to clarify it. >> governor clinton. >> tell me how it's affected you again. you know

i was in the lomax a.m.e. church. it's a black church just outside of washington, d.c. and i read in the -- in the bulletin about teen-age pregnancies, about the difficulty that families are having to meet ends -- to make ends meet. i talk to parents. i mean, you've got to care. everybody cares if people aren't doing well. but i don't think -- i don't think it's fair to say, you haven't had cancer, therefore you don't know what it's like. i don't think it's fair to say, you know, whatever it is, that if you haven't been hit by it personally -- but everybody's affected by the debt because of the tremendous interest that goes into paying on that debt, everything's more expensive. everything comes out of your pocket and my pocket. so it's, it's sad, but i think in terms of the recession, of course you feel it when you're president of the united states. and that's why i'm trying to do something about it by stimulating the exports, investing more, better education system. thank you. i'm glad to clarify it. >> governor clinton. >> tell me how it's affected you again. you know

i was in the lomax eme church. >> i just -- we missed the question. the question was, how has the national debt affected you personally? to clarify the bad economy. he did not get it. clinton ate it up. [laughter] >> sitting here as a journalist, i am struck by two things. one, the moderator is doing a lot of interpretation. there seems to be a very genuine moment with a man who i remember as very controlled and calm. really rising to wait a minute. that is an interesting line. you should be the white house. that is a very human moment. does this format show for good or bad these types of things? >> interestingly, i think it is a mitt romney problem today. if someone said you have a number of homes and your wife drives a couple of cadillacs and your money is offshore, how do you feel my pain? i think there will not be this kind of surprise on his face when this comes at a town hall meeting, but again, any kind of window we get, even into their thought process sees when they are confronted with an articulated left-field questions really does help us un

i was in the lomax a.m.e. church. it's a black church just outside of washington, d.c. and i read in the -- in the bulletin about teen-age pregnancies, about the difficulty that families are having to meet ends -- to make ends meet. i talk to parents. i mean, you've got to care. everybody cares if people aren't doing well. but i don't think -- i don't think it's fair to say, you haven't had cancer, therefore you don't know what it's like. i don't think it's fair to say, you know, whatever it is, that if you haven't been hit by it personally -- but everybody's affected by the debt because of the tremendous interest that goes into paying on that debt, everything's more expensive. everything comes out of your pocket and my pocket. so it's, it's sad, but i think in terms of the recession, of course you feel it when you're president of the united states. and that's why i'm trying to do something about it by stimulating the exports, investing more, better education system. thank you. i'm glad to clarify it. >> governor clinton. >> tell me how it's affected you again. you know

i was in the lomax eme church. >> i just -- we missed the question. the question was, how has the national debt affected you personally? to clarify the bad economy. he did not get it. [laughter] >> sitting here as a journalist, i am struck by two things. lot of interpretation. there seems to be a very genuine moment with a man who i remember as very controlled and calm. really rising to wait a minute. that is an interesting line. you should be the white house. that is a very human moment. or bad these types of things? >> interestingly, i think it is a mitt romney problem today. if someone said you have a number of homes and your wife drives a couple of cadillacs and your money is offshore, how do you feel my pain? i think there will not be this kind of surprise on his face when this comes at a town hall meeting, but again, any kind of window we get, even into their thought process sees when they are confronted with an articulated left-field questions really does help us understand who they are. as bill clinton just goes over there and does that i lock