staff, and i know that maria lombardo, it's not personal. i'm not making excuses for everyone, i just want to acknowledge that i was uncomfortable with the exchange, and affirm that i can connect and be empathetic to supervisor fewer's frustration, and also just want to acknowledge, maria, i think to your staff and tilly do do a good job and are thoughtful, and i'm hopeful, mr. chair, that perhaps with your leadership, will be able to reconcile this incident. when we move forward, it does respect everyone's perspective. i hope that you've heard supervisor fewer and received it. like supervisor fewer, she said it's not personal, but she's coming from a very raw place and that is what we are experiencing and hearing. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you for those comments. commissioner ronen? >> supervisor ronen: yes. i also wanted to chime in here because as a supervisor that is constantly advocating for the east side of the city that deals with so much development and homelessness and so much of the social ills that are happening, we often

lombardo, you touched on this earlier, gail undergraduate, yield after it, he studied at oxford, whyhis particular area of expertise, white's interest you so much? -- why does it interest you so much? question,xcellent i've always been interested in borderlands and when i went to the university of oxford, i had the wonderful pleasure of a historian of mexico, alan knight, who even though his interest was the mexican revolution, was willing to work with me on the u.s. mexico border, so in some respects, it was by virtue of the people i was with it has since become -- have stayed with this topic because it has so much relevance to contemporary issues. respects, it was by virtuewe ofa place that people are explained -- escaping from but this and ninehows us sensory, mexico's of his place people were escaping to because it made major interventions of a history of abolition and freedom in north america.