there is a lot of lon liness in america. most of the public is checking out from this conversation all together. one of the effects of polarization is people in these two parties think the main way they would lose their job and one of the things that is scary is the biggest long term thought a lot of politicians have is their own incumbancy. blaup .... >> washington journal continues. host: our first guest, former u.s. senator from oklahoma he is the author of the book, smashing d.c. he is also a senior advisor of the convention of state project.