london. he says, and i've stayed in the chelsea hotel in the village. it's a hippy fleabag. is chelsea like that? was the town named after that hotel? and i said no. and he wondered where sunderlandid, well, it's way in west iowa. >> when you're with your daughter, who's a fabulous actress. >> she's terrific. >> do you talk movies, the craft of making movies, the technique? >> since she was nine years old. actually her mother diane ladd and myself and laura are the only family in the history of the business that all have stars on hollywood boulevard that mother, father, child. other families but not mother, father, child. and so laura was brought up. and my wife andrea is a fabulous movie buff from 1928 to 1950. she'll give you -- we start playing trivia, not just her but folks that really know how to do it, and she starts out give me three edna may oliver movies. my god. >> you were married the first time for two years, second time for nine years, third marriage 43 years. so you would say from the law of statistics you slowly worked it out. >> well, let's put it this way. my wife is from north dakota. i went over one time to meet a guy in your country named john phelp because i