plaintiffs, she has called in federal authorities saying that, you know, with him being over the longfellow academy, that something is amis there, and so you want to watch every single step. so, again, to each his own, but that's certainly the position that i know i certainly would take when you have these kind of serious charges. >> well, i mean that's obviously, as martin would say, the legal advice is to shut up, to let this play out in court, but i'm wondering, roland, from a man-of-the-cloth standpoint, from a higher-calling standpoint, is that really the path he should be taking? >> again, even though he is a man of the cloth, you're still dealing with the legal issues. secondly, if you look at the fourth lawsuit, the fourth lawsuit -- actually the third lawsuit names several other individuals who work for the churches as well. if you also look at all of the different lawsuits, they raise -- it goes beyond sexual coerci coercion, they talk about responsibility, they talk about fraud. so the legal exposure from the church's standpoint stands beyond bishop eddie long. they're saying oth