and at the very minimum, lonita, second-degree manslaughter charges. because we want justice for breonna taylor, not just partial justice. breonna taylor is a light to help heal what's happening in america. and for all those young people, those celebrities, athletes, but most importantly the people who are on the ground, the people who are the activists and protesters who are saying enough is enough. we see that there are two justice systems in america. one for black america and one for white america. and louisville, kentucky, we took significant steps today in the name of breonna taylor of trying to correct this broken criminal justice system. and we do it in three phases. in the civil rights phase with this civil lawsuit, which is the only thing that lonita and i can control. we can't control the criminal prosecution. the mayor's office in the city leadership all took a significant step in making sure that the civil rights of breonna taylor was recognized and now we also need our legislative partners to help transform the protests into policy. we nee

and at the very minimum, lonita, second-degree murder charges we want full justice, not just partial justice. breonna taylor is a light to help heal what's happening in america. for all of those young people, those celebrities, athletes, but most importantly the people who are on the ground, the people who are the activists and protesters saying enough is never. we see there's two justice systems in america, one for black america, and one for white america. in louisville, kentucky, we took significant steps today in the name of breonna taylor, of trying to correct this broken criminal justice system. we do it in three phases, in the civil rights phase, with this civil lawsuits, which is the only thing that lonita and i can control. we can't control the criminal prosecution. the mayor's office and the city leadership all took a significant step in making sure that the civil rights of breonna taylor was recognized and now we also need our legislative partners to help transform the protests into policy we need breonna's law, not just in louisville, not just in the state of kentucky, but

and lonita, i believe it may be the largest amount paid for a black person in a police shooting. we are still trying to verify that. and it is certainly one of the largest amount ever paid out for any person in the way of settlement in a police killing in america. but the comprehensive reform that to the louisville metro council and mayor fischer put forth is equally important. because this is about to setting a precedent. when my great cocounsels from kentucky, wanita baker and sam, our first talk about this black woman who had been killed in her own apartment. they were very concerned that nobody cared. nobody cared about this black woman. nobody cared about tamika palmer's baby. and that's when i started calling everybody that i knew to say that black women's lives matter too. i remember calling reverend al sharpton saying, can i come on your show? i remember calling rickey smiley saying can i get on your radio show, your national radio show. i called tamika mallory, and my son and her team at until freedom. i called senator kamala harris. i mean, i was saying to anybody who w

and they were mostly offended, because like my co-counsels sam aguiar and lonita baker, we're trying the figure out, what did the kentucky attorney general, daniel cameron, present to the grand jury? did he present any evidence for breonna taylor? if he did, what was it, to get an outcome like this? >> ben, the attorney general said yesterday, apparently, part of the evidence that was presented was this idea of self-defense. that the officers only fired because breonna taylor's boyfriend fired first. what do you make of that argument? >> well, craig, the self-defense argument in kentucky, as in many states across america, contemplates that you cannot use violence against a third-party innocent bystander like breonna taylor. the fact her boyfriend, kenny walker, who has a right to the second amendment, like any other citizen, even if he is a black man, they thought it was intruders breaking into their home. he thought he was protecting his woman and his castle. that begs a deeper question, craig. why didn't daniel cameron present to the grand jury anything about the lie in the probabl

. >> lonita, i am coming back to you. was having a discussion in the segment before where one of the guests said well, the ag was clear. the blallistics were clear. %-pd not determine mattingly was shot by walker's gun. that inconclusive determination that attorney general cameron relied on, he tried to implicate ken kenny walker. what he also said was we know walker fired the 9-millimeters and the police using 4 caliber. >> brett hankison is issued a nine millimeters. release the entire and we'll see who's telling the truth. if scott jennings knows him, call him up tonight. >> i offer the same. you have kcontact down there. it is not for me to disclose what he's doing or not. putting out there, i am happy to be the first person to put a set of eyes on it. i will put it on tv so you can tell yourself. council baker, what happens? people are frustrated. you put it perfectly. they understand what they're being told. they're not stupid. under the law they understand it or common sense so now they take it to the streets and p

we give you attorney lonita baker. >> sandra: you've been listening to a news conference there on thee transcript, enough is enough. after the grand jury decision that one of the three police officers charged in the -- involved in the shooting death of breonna taylor was actually charged with wanton endangerment and he has gone on the record calling the grand jury decision a sham proceeding that did not give breonna a voice. just now he said they need to release the transcript of the grand jury proceedings and also said he was bewildered over the lack of charges in her death and went on to question what evidence kentucky's a.g. sent to the grand jury. that news conference will continue there. we'll monitor it for news and we'll have analysis on what you just heard coming up in just a few moments. >> trace: fox news alert and you're looking live at president trump's golf resort in south florida and soon he will host a round table billed as latinos for trump. this as a new fox news poll shows the president trailing joe biden among likely hispanic voters. as often happens with president

joining me now is lonita baker, attorney for the family who just left the protest.th us tonight. what is the family's message to protestors tonight? >> the family's message is one, be safe. everyone, make it home tonight. but also, they truly appreciate the support. that's why they were out there for part of tonight for half of the march. they had another commitment but they want to show their support to the protestors, just as the protestors have been here supporting them for now over a hundred days. >> your client, breonna taylor's mom, wrote a letter that was read on her behalf at a press conference earlier today and it said, in part, i was reassured wednesday of why i have no faith in the legal system and the police and the law, that are not made to protect us, black and brown people. how is she doing right now? and where -- where -- where do you see this going from here? >> yeah. so the support of so many is helpful. but wednesday, it -- it really was a wound being opened back up, for her to hear that daniel cameron had -- had elected not to charge the other of

and like me and my co-counsels, attorney lonita baker, they were baffled by what kentucky attorney generaliel cameron actually presented to the grand jury. did he present any evidence, at all, on behalf of breonna taylor? and if he didn't, then he unilaterally made a decision to put his thumb on the scales of justice, to exonerate those police officers that killed breonna taylor. and made sure that she would not get due process of the law. and that she would not get justice. and that's why we are demanding that the transcripts of the grand jury proceedings be released. so we can see if breonna's voice was ever made -- put forth before that grand jury. >> how much of a heads up did the attorney general give the taylor family, before making the announcement? and were -- i mean, were the charges clearly explained to them? >> anderson, he notified them about ten minutes before the decision was announced to the world. and, no, there was not much explanation given, whatsoever. in fact, my co-counsels had to explain to ms. palmer that the wanton endangerment charge was not even for breonna's apar

lonita baker, thank you so much for joining us and pass along our love to breonna taylor's family. thanks for joining us. >> all right. thank you. >>> let's bring in our senior legal analyst and our cnn political commentator van jones. laura, let me start with your reaction to what the kentucky attorney general explained why the two police officers were in his view, the view of the grand jury actually justified in firing their weapons during this operation. listen to this. >> well, there are six possible homicide charges under kentucky law. these charges are not applicable to the facts before us because our investigations show and the grand jury agreed that mattingly and cosgrove were justified in the return of deadly fire after having been fired upon by kenneth walker. let me state that again. according to kentucky law, the use of force by mattingly and cosgrove was justified to protect themselves. this justification bars us from pursuing criminal charges in miss breonna taylor's death. >> based on your analysis of the evidence that we know right now, would it have been possible f