. >> we're joined now by lonnie chen who joins me from mountain view, california. lonnie, first of all, i'd like your reaction on what we're learning that the attorney general jeff sessions gave information, during his confirmation hearings, both orally and in writing, that directly contradicts the facts. he said he had had no contact with anyone connected to the russian government. turns out he's met the russian ambassador to the u.s. twice while he was a trump campaign surrogate. >> well, it may technically be t the case, that he was meeting in his capacity as a senator, as a member of the armed services committee, but more broadly, there's a concern about why the meetings weren't disclosed even if they were taken in that capacity. do i think it's the case, cyril, that it's not unusual for campaign officials to meet with officials from other governments. in fact, when i led the policy team for governor romney, we took meetings with several foreign governments interested in u.s. policy, but the broader question is why those meetings were not disclosed and the conte