business of governing, so i do take optimism from a series of actions that show that, if you you you lookn issue like immigration reform i think it is good for our economy and there is a path forward still, i think more can happen this year. >> rose: you think there is a path forward on immigration reform in this congress? >> i actually do. >> rose: even though speaker boehner said it is impossible? >> well, i think -- >> rose: and blamed the president as the reason it was impossible? >> i think if you look at the substance of immigration reform, there is broad agreement that there is policy areas where there could be consensus. i think there is broad agreement on both sides that -- >> rose: one is immigration and one is getting ready to go into midterm elections is the political reality. >> i will leave it for others to make their own political decisions, i would personally argue there is a case where good policy and good politics ultimately come together which is why i am more optimistic. i am not saying it is a certainty but the conversation is by no means over, and the challenge of doi