trick for a lot of americans or at least gop voters, anyway, i have lined up a flip chart to take a looksyt some of the others that could swoop in. sarah palin as well as chris christie -- i wish i had a drum beat or something. indiana governor mitch daniels, much talked about. and also, former florida governor, jeb bush. all of them glossy, lovely, wonderful. people are begging for these people to enter the race. but i'm going to start with you, ana. they have worts too. the grass is not always greener. so what's everybody's freaking out over? >> well, it's worse than they have worts. they don't want to do it. i ran into jeb bush just a couple of days ago and he thinks all this talk is crazy. he's not open to it at all. so we just have to stop being wishful thinkers and get on to what we have on our plate. >> so not only him, but also marco rubio, right? i hear the way politicians answer those questions and i'm sure you are astute in the way you asked the question, but did they say something cagey, like, this time, it's not my attention, or were they really definitive? >> no, listen, jeb