but they are also looooking at whether particularar genetic strains mit be more resilient to thehese future condiditions. bush: when they're this size, they're relatively burly. they're capable of withstanding challenges, , especially short-term ones. where we are, on the coast, the--the big acidification events, the big ph drops, they're associated with upwelling g events, and they d't last forever. they c can--these guys canan deal with thohose, bt the larvae, the eggs, the future of these guys--those guys get hit by those events, and it just hammers them. it's gotten challenging. it's not a turnkey, pushbubutton operation to jujust ththem in the bucket and make a million babies, you knknow? andt should be, but it's getttting haharder and harder and d harder evevery year. swezey: doug really takes it a step further in that he's willining to work k with scienes and groups t that are interestsd in conseserving the species onoa more personal levevel because he understands ththe value inin conserving the abalone and having a healthy abalone population both for his business, but alalso