lord attenborough told me this, 20 years ago. when you find your ambition, things will clear up. you stop thinking about yourself as someone on the outside and think about what is possible. that is when he thought the stuff would clear away. it was something that was apropos, not just for me but a lot of other people he has worked with. >> now that you are getting a shot at the title -- or you already won? >> i feel like cassius clay. >> he changed his name. >> right after he won. >> then i am muhammad ali. there is a time of gloating, accomplishment. that is another false thing. what is the next moment, right thing to do? that is what has helped me transition. people tend to crash when lousy things happen and when great things happen. >> you also found love. >> yeah, right. mama downey. >> she was an executive vice president at a firm? >> what she was, she was the producer's onset producer and we met in montreal. >> only when you went back to l.a. -- >> who pursued whom? [laughter] >> i was chasing her down hard. she is a very practical -- a nice jewish girl from the midwest. sh