lord elgin, who even violated the law in force at that time on the withdrawal of cultural property, heenon frieze, part of the prophenon sculptures, and a small part of the architectural decoration, in particular the capital and base of several colonies, that is, yes, we can say that he stole them. as a result, lord elgen sold the marbles for 3,500 pounds sterling in britain, almost from the moment of independence in 1830, greece began to demand the marbles back, since this issue is raised regularly in greece, the british museum does not give it. permission to exhibit them in other countries. meanwhile scythian gold from crimean museums is being unpacked in kiev. ukrainian experts valued the collection at $15 million, although it was, of course, studied long ago and assessed by soviet art historians. in contrast to the scythian gold, where the question of museum ownership comes into play. and in this sense, the british are in their right, because in no museum, and the portheno marbles were not stored at the time of their export from greece, or rather, then from the territory of the ott

the history is that lord elgin cahoots with a lord elgin in cahoots with a couple his friends in coupleovernment, decided that, hey, we've opportunity here. we've got an opportunity here. there's athens. the there's disarray in athens. the turks here. breaking turks are here. they're breaking stuff one's really in stuff up. no one's really in charge. we can spirit these things the country and things out of the country and letters discovered in the in the elgin as recently as elgin archive as recently as last support they last year support this 100. they hatched a plan to bring these things back to england and to sell as garden ornaments sell these as garden ornaments to friends. and they to their rich friends. and they hope bundle of money hope to make a bundle of money out castlereagh house out of it. and castlereagh house his his good friend, foreign minister, them minister, arranged to bring them into no duties into the country with no duties paid. together to paid. and then together they to hope fortune by selling hope make a fortune by selling these marbles . unfortunately, these m

the history is that lord elgin cahoots with a lord elgin in cahoots with a couple his friends in couple, government, decided that, hey, we've opportunity here. we've got an opportunity here. there's athens. the there's disarray in athens. the turks here. breaking turks are here. they're breaking stuff one's really in stuff up. no one's really in charge. we can spirit these things the country and things out of the country and letters discovered in the in the elgin as recently as elgin archive as recently as last support they last year support this 100. they hatched a plan to bring these things back to england and to sell as garden ornaments sell these as garden ornaments to friends. and they to their rich friends. and they hope bundle of money hope to make a bundle of money out castlereagh house out of it. and castlereagh house his his good friend, foreign minister, them minister, arranged to bring them into no duties into the country with no duties paid. together to paid. and then together they to hope fortune by selling hope make a fortune by selling these marbles . unfortunately, thes

yes, you can, lord elgin, who clavoziu, violated even the law in force at that time on the export ofty, he lied to the governor, the frieze of the phenon, and part of the sculptures from the pediments of the prophenon, and a small part of the architectural decoration, in particular. and a base on several columns, that is, yes, we can say that he stole them, how likely is it that london will return these exhibits, someday, while terishunok is in no hurry to do, this is obvious, no matter how much, london will never return them voluntarily, you can forget about it, without, look, with the parfinon marbles, the british museum is a place where anyone, more or less, or a person who considers himself cultured, should go , at least once in my life, because believe me, i have never seen a sculpture in my life better than a profeno sculpture, without them, it will be good, worthy, very rich, but in general, an average european collection, antiques, not only greek , roman, egyptian, there and various others, respectively, and the collection is outstanding, the collection is very interesting, b

two hundred years ago, lord elgin brought them to britain and they're now in the british museum but greeceris mason with more made almost 500 years before the birth of christ, they've been here in the uk since the 19th century. pretty much ever since, greece has wanted them back. on the right the greek prime minister kyriakos mitsotakis beating the labour leader keir starmer, but then stood up by rishi sunak, prompting a domestic and international row. the greek government is baffled by what is happening and the argument is making plenty of noise increase. translation: for sure it's been translation: for sure it's been noted as an individual behaviour of the prime minister, a —1 which we express our intent dissatisfaction. here at the british museum in london, where the marbles are, they are considering lending them to athens and downing street claimed the greek prime minister making the case for this publicly at the weekend and rishi sunak to cancel his meeting with him, but on display also, skip falls of domestic politics. this is a row about heritage and about culture, what is a british

were part of the parthenon temple in ancient athens, brought to britain in the 19th century by lord elgin the british museum. well, on his visit to the uk, the greek prime minister again called for the sculptures to be returned to greece, saying that for some of them to be in britain is like cutting the mona lisa in half. 0ur chief political correspondent, henry zeffman, is in westminster. mr sunak seems to be making a bit of a stand on this issue, doesn't he? that's right. i mean, this is either a story that begins to house 500 years ago, or on sunday. so, put simpler city, let's start on sunday, which is when kyriakos mitsotakis, the greek prime minister, gave an interview to the bbc using that vivid analogy about the mona lisa. now, downing street thinks that the greek prime minister even speaking about this in public breached an assurance they believe they had from the greek government, although sources in the greek government are disputing that. so clearly there is just a question of diplomatic niceties here. but i think there is also a broader question, a cultural question, really,

lord elgin misused his office at the beginning of 1800s to dismantle it, causing huge damage on it, byto decorate his country house in scotland. he then went bankrupt, of course, and sold them to the british state, but the british state bought them without checking any substantial docking intention concerning... professor, 'ust to intention concerning... professor, just to keep _ intention concerning... professor, just to keep specifically _ intention concerning... professor, just to keep specifically to - intention concerning... professor, just to keep specifically to this - just to keep specifically to this latest development, the prime minister, downing street, has said that it had assurances that the greek prime minister would not raise this subject? i greek prime minister would not raise this subject?— this sub'ect? i don't believe that there this subject? i don't believe that there was such _ this subject? i don't believe that there was such an _ this subject? i don't believe that there was such an agreement. it this subject? i don't believe that - there was such an agreement. it

they were purchased by lord elgin. why does everybody keep saying that those things were stolen? that. i did indeed. correct that. i did indeed. correct that. look, time flies on this program. there is something else i want to get to because i think it's really interesting and important. we all know we're at a point now with a critical point now with the conflict it comes to israel conflict when it comes to israel and the casualty of and hamas. the first casualty of war truth. right that is war is the truth. right that is a saying is being quoted a saying that is being quoted and on and on. i have seen a lot of over the last 24 of outrage over the last 24 hours. there was a screening. there is a screening idf are doing screening about body cam doing a screening about body cam footage. yourself attended footage. you yourself attended the screening along with owen jones , who is a journalist, that jones, who is a journalist, that many of you guys at home will perhaps be familiar with. now there critiquing done of there is some critiquing done of there is some critiquing done of the

also known as the elgin marbles, and once part of the acropolis in ancient athens. 200 years ago, lord elginour political editor chris mason. made almost 500 years before the birth of christ, they've been here in the uk since the 19th century. pretty much ever since, greece has wanted them back. on the right the greek prime minister kyriakos mitsotakis beating the labour leader keir starmer, but then stood up by rishi sunak, prompting a domestic and international rail —— meeting. the greek government is baffled by what is happening and the argument is making plenty of noise increase. translation:— making plenty of noise increase. j translation:_ here making plenty of noise increase. i translation:_ here at translation: frustration. here at the british museum _ translation: frustration. here at the british museum in _ translation: frustration. here at the british museum in london, - translation: frustration. here at. the british museum in london, where the british museum in london, where the marbles are, they are considering lending them to athens and downing street claimed the greek prime mi

made a special separate isolated case of repatriation of this work of art because remember, when lord elginpermission to do it. when they were sold to the british state, there was a debate in parliament about the legality of this because there were questions at the time and parliament became satisfied that he gave them in great britain legally. in the way they're displayed now, basically backwards and inside out in the ledeen gallery of the british museum, they are essentially a british monument. they are a monument to the way the british constitutional monarchy understood itself in the 19th century to be the inheritor of ancient greece. the original plan was to put up a scale model of parthenon in a triple gar —— trafalgar. if we go down this path, we could be upsetting the entire system of international museums in the west. . v system of international museums in the west. ., �*, , the west. that's the interesting issue. the west. that's the interesting issue- there — the west. that's the interesting issue. there are _ the west. that's the interesting issue. there are people - the west. th

being used for melting down into limestone by the ottoman empire, which then controlled greece, had lord elgin because not only were the ottoman empire who were there then destroying it, the greek climate and the acid rain and the erosion athens has the erosion in athens has subsequently damaged what remains even more than it already was. >> what remains in london is the most exquisitely preserved section of the elgin marbles . section of the elgin marbles. what is in athens is only recently being cleaned. and frankly, i don't trust the greeks to keep it to the standard that it should be kept. >> well, that that's not a reason for them not to go back now is it? what happened in in the 17th hundreds? >> i it is because have >> i think it is because we have the right to it. >> we have preserved it for 200 years. >> no, the right. >> no, not the right. >> no, not the right. >> we don't have the right. we quite rightly have probably cared for them and looked after them. >> they've f-a f“ >> and they've been a great exhibit. we've gone and looked. >> but actually, not our >> but actually, they're n

but prior to the to them being removed by lord elgin, he actually took a saw to the marbles to removehenon itself. and so in the mere act of removing them and taking them to britain, that was in itself a destructive act . act. >> but in the times of the day and the law of the day, what he did was lawful. he had the permission from the ottoman rulers of greece who were the legitimate rulers at that time. >> best, the legal, the legal >> at best, the legal, the legal argument is questionable . you argument is questionable. you say that the ottoman empire were the legitimate rulers . the the legitimate rulers. the greeks were under occupation. they had no agency in this whatsoever . whatsoever. >> but were they that how do you define greeks ? what are they? define greeks? what are they? they're not strictly the descendants of aristotle either. they're a very different people. there's been a lot of movement of people in the centuries from aristotle, the greek people today probably the best today are probably the best educated in the ancient, ancient greek history , more so than our greek

they were brought to britain by lord elgin, a diplomat, more than 200 years ago. defender of the marbles and i think more generally against claims that the british museum, but other museums in the west well, as well, should have their collections broken up and returned to countries where some of those items originated. they hope, i think, to contrast that position with the labour party, who are saying that keir starmer�*s view is that the government should stick out of it and allow there to be a negotiation, as is currently taking place by the way, between the british museum and the greek government, but they say a labour prime minister would not stand in the way of those marbles returning to greece if a loan agreement were secured. so there is the politics, diplomacy... but at its heart there is a negotiation that has been ongoing for some time between the british museum and the greek government and i don't think any of this change is that.— this change is that. henry, thank ou. the producers of britain's got talent say they've reached an "amicable resolution" wi

have heard of the elgin marbles, or the person sculptures, brought here in the 19th century by lord elgink they look better? i think the answer is very clear, they don't look better in the acropolis museum, a state—of—the—art museum built for that purpose and this is not a question of returning artefacts whose ownership we question. —— they do look better. this is a reunification argument, where can you best appreciate what is essentially one monument? if i told you you cut the mona lisa in half and you are top half of it in the british museum and half of that at the loofah do you think the viewers would appreciate the beauty of the painting in such a way? this is what happened with the parthenon sculptures and that is we keep lobbying for a deal that would essentially be a partnership between greece and the british museum patch of which would allow us to return the scorchers to greece and have people appreciate them in their original setting. you people appreciate them in their original setting.— people appreciate them in their original setting. you said you were confident if— original s

well, well, the ottomans allegedly, according lord elgin, the according to lord elgin, the ottomans actually>> it is to keep them safe here? well and i would have agreed with you . and for all of this with you. and for all of this time been saying, time i've been saying, let's just safe. lovely . just keep them safe. and lovely. >> we've about it constantly. >> we have argued about it. however, then going to however, then going out to athens seeing where they athens and seeing where they originated and being in the country that they came from, and looking at the acropolis museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at the acropolis museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at of! acropolis museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at of thinkoolis museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at of think ,)lis museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at of think , do museum. country that they came from, and looki|g at of think , do we seum. and i kind of think, do we really have the right to hold them? and i'm not convinced we do. >> do we have the right to hold

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okay john bruce, lord elgin came over and made a deal with the ottomans.ith this because the because it would save the marbles. for example, you marbles. so if, for example, you had and you said, had a fire, bev, and you said, tonya, my paintings, put tonya, take my paintings, put them and look after them in your loft and look after them in your loft and look after them because my house is burnt down, right? 2 or 3 years later, your you say, your house is fixed. you say, tony, you can have the paintings back.i tony, you can have the paintings back. i know, you can't back. i know, mate. you can't have they're mine now. back. i know, mate. you can't have is they're mine now. back. i know, mate. you can't have is the they're mine now. back. i know, mate. you can't have is the exact're mine now. back. i know, mate. you can't have is the exact example. ow. back. i know, mate. you can't have is the exact example. this that is the exact example. this is it really clear and is to make it really clear and really simple. that is the example. >> and it's you wouldn't

the turks occupied greece at the turks had occupied greece at that stage when lord elgin went in boughty in and bought them and the guy sold to him . so he felt he sold them to him. so he felt he bought them . right. anyway at bought them. right. anyway at the time, 18 minutes past the hour of. very good morning to you, eamonn and isabel here at breakfast. and gb news. >> here's a reminder of our top story this morning. and rifts are deepening within the conservative party over ballooning numbers. conservative party over ball immigration numbers. conservative party over ball immigration ministeribers. conservative party over ball immigration minister robert the immigration minister robert jenrick taken aim at jenrick has now taken aim at number what he perceives number 10 over what he perceives as of action. as a lack of action. >> in other . as a lack of action. >> in other. news as a lack of action. >> in other . news another 12 >> in other. news another 12 hostages have been freed overnight by hamas, ten israelis to thai nationals. overnight by hamas, ten israelis to thai nationals .

elgin marbles famous . nobody marbles became famous. nobody knew before. it's knew about them before. it's their the their presence there. and the british actually didn't steal them. these were purchased, of course , lordillion and the house of commons had committee in had a select committee in ensuring this was a legal ensuring that this was a legal acquisition . i imagine any acquisition. i can't imagine any other in world going acquisition. i can't imagine any otisuch in world going acquisition. i can't imagine any otisuch great in world going acquisition. i can't imagine any otisuch great steps world going acquisition. i can't imagine any otisuch great steps to orld going acquisition. i can't imagine any otisuch great steps to ensureing to such great steps to ensure that the process of purchasing them was legal and there was no greece the time. remember greece at the time. remember there no greece at the time, there was no greece at the time, but is perhaps the but the parthenon is perhaps the iconic symbol of greece standing there on the acropolis, looking down across athens , this down across athens, this majestic sight. >> do the greeks not have a point that it feels like bits are missing or bit