but i believe those reforms are absolutely essential, and as a former labour pension secretary lord hutton said, it is hard to imagine a better deal than this, but what i would say above all to people on strike today, they are going on strike at a time when negotiations are still under way. the right hon. gentleman refers to what was said in june. let me remind him what he said on the 30th of june. these strikes are wrong. the strikes are wrong at a time when negotiations are going on. why is he changing his mind now -? >> i say to people engaged in orchestrated eric king, it is very tedious very juvenile. the public does not want to hear it. neither do are. that is all there is to it. >> they declare negotiations at an end four weeks ago. they say they made their final offer, and they have not even met the indians since november 2, and what has the prime minister gone around saying to people, he has gone around saying he is privately delighted the unions have walked into his trap. that is the reality. the reason people have lost faith if you have not been straight with people, will he adm