lord norton, let's pick up on this power—grabbing issue, this seems to be a real concern, the committeeathtaking in its scope and potential. hasn't the government got to do this? well, there is a means and ends, so not challenging the principle of the bill. there is going to be withdrawal and then you have to get the mechanism right. we are focussing on what is the mechanism, what are the means by which one does that. the government is introducing into the bill some provisions which we think are moving into the right direction, is an awful long way to go to ensure the relationship in parliament, the executive is right in enabling parliament to be involved in the scrutiny of the measures. the way it is drawn at the moment, it is complex and it does confer on ministers exceptional powers. butjust quickly, whether you like or whether you don't, henry viiith powers are perfectly legit, they are used all the time. there has been an increase in the use of henry viiith powers and we at the constitution some time but this is on a totally different level. if you look at, i think clause 17, it mo