lord wakeman in his written evidence gives a lot of factual detail about this. but once the white paper called bringing rights home or rights brought home, the white paper was published and the bill obviously various interest groups weighed in to say they thought the bill as drafted might adversely affect them. one group is the churches, the roman catholic church and anglican church were very concerned that it might affect them. so the result of those negotiations was what became section 13. and the other was the press. and they raised these concerns through representations originally to lord irvin who was handling the bill in the house of lords. it started in the house of lords, not the house of commons. lord wakeham raised them on the floor of the house and he said in his written statement that he did that not as a representative of the press but to reflect his own opinions but he happened to be chairman of the bcc. and i was very anxious to achieve a consensus on this legislation. because i have a principle, which is that major constitutional change should on