loretta weinberg co-chairs the committee investigating the governor.this guy, a new personality for a lot of us. he's on the commission. it's his job to oversee the george washington bridge. but le seemed to think this title was an honorary htitle. i don't understand how he can take salary for being on a commission and say robotically i don't want to be involved. . what is he involved with if not the george washington bridge? >> let me correct one thing. the port authority commissioners are not salaried. so they don't receive a salary, they get renumerated for expenses. but i was somewhat surprised, i've known pat schuber for many years. he's a former mayor of a community i represent. he is a former assemblyman, so he served in the legislature, and he's the former county elected executive. so i would have assumed that mr. schuber knew something about his responsibilities, but an e-mail is exposed from his executive director, the port authority executive director saying, laws were probably broken here. none of our processes were followed. people were pu

warning that federal laws had likely been broken and said he received a personal letter from loretta weinbergn the matter. >> this whole issue had become very, very, i thought politically charged, quite frankly, or even partisan to a certain degree. quite frankly, it was not something i wanted to be involved in the middle of, quite frankly. that's the way i felt about it. it became somewhat political with regard to that. and my position with regard to that, i just didn't want to be in the middle. i saw this becoming a political football, and from my perspective, i didn't want to be involved with that. >> that's consistent. he didn't even want to deal with members of his own staff on the issue. here's more of his "i'm not getting involved." >> i think there may have been some tension between some of the new jersey permanent staffers and the new york staffers. so again, that was another issue that played out with regard to that, and i just didn't want to be part of that either. >> dismiss it and ignore it, it's the playbook which the governor used himself. five investigations are under way righ