i do have to watch what speaker 14 item three for lower -- lorette miners. and item for. i see you are in support of all of these projects. do you still want to pull them off of consent to speak to them? >> president hillis: all right is there any other members of the public or commission who would like to pull any of these items off the consent calendar? seeing none, we will close public comment. his. >> commissioner koppel: move to approve items 3-5. >> second. >> clerk: sect -- thank you, commissioners. on that motion. [roll call] >> clerk: so moved. it passes unanimously and places us under commission matters. item six is commission comments and questions. >> president hillis: commissioner richards? >> commissioner richards: a couple of weeks ago i attended a historic preservation commission meeting and realized, in the course, there are lots of items we share in common, concerning, you know, we talked about things being historic and what the plan is for the city. i urged the historic preservation commission to request a joint hearing with us. we have not had one sinc