still with us, lori heinel of state street. at what we've learned from european banks, do we have a broad take away yet? have we found a bottom for them? octavio: if you look at the two banks that have announced so far, ubs and barclays, they seem to be going in diametrically opposite directions. bank did quite badly. barclays did very well. ubs didn't do so well in domestic retail banking, and barclays did kind of mediocre. these two banks so far aren't really giving us any real direction, but i think what we will see overall is a bit of softness in domestic markets, a ,iny bit of growth there loan volume up, and on the investment banking side in the european market, things do not look so great. we seen some downturn there, a big downturn in ipo activity, trading volumes have been flat a bit. so far, we haven't seen much of a direction, but i think it will be that investment banking and europe will draw things down, and domestic and corporate will be kind of flat and down slightly overall. romaine: are you a little concerned t